Mwami Ssekajja
Point to me a posting where I have degraded you to a manner you have done so to
myself. And look I have been in these forums way too long than you expect. And
I have dealt with so many agenda driven individuals, but I take no mercy in
abusive language. A very reason I blocked George Okello but watching Ocen
Nekyon very closely to only get a chance to block him as well. Yet both are
going to leave these forums and I will still remain. You have an issue you
claim to interest you, making Uganda a federal state, I have no problem
responding to all your writings and trust me I have very limited time, but I
try to log on here and then and I respond, even though George Okello claims I
live in the forum, responding to everything posted. Do you want to be a part of
a civilized society exchanging discussions in UAH? Clean up your language or
consider your self-gone.
And trust me I have blocked so many yet I have never sat on my dining table and
my kids are not eating for I blocked George Okello.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 12:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} ANSWERING MULINDWA'S QUESTION No.2
Mulindwa,
What makes you think that you have a right to be abusive, while expecting
others not to give you the same treatment? You maintain that I abused you, show
where the abuse is!!
I will answer your third question in due course.
Ssekajja
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On 26 Jun 2015, at 14:22, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Ssekajja
This is the very same nonsense I dropped from your thread, but I thank you for
not being abusive this time around.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected] [
<mailto:[email protected]>
mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:18 AM
To: <mailto:[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: {UAH} ANSWERING MULINDWA'S QUESTION No.2
Mr Mulindwa;
According to you;
2} How will Buganda benefit from this political change when it has failed to
create a political structure to sell it?
When we talk about the political structure of Buganda, we are referring to a
very well organised kingdom setup, unrivalled, in the African context, though
very much rendered dormant and inactive, today. The set up of the kabaka-ship,
the Lukiko, the Katikiro, the Saza, Gombolola, Muluka, local village chiefs.
The structure of government with it's fundamental rules,regulations and
monarchical practices that were exercised, until the exile of the Kabaka in
1966, are all in place to revive self governance of the kingdom. Being a
monarchy, with a kabaka as head, the primary system is the monarchical system,
adhered to by the majority of Baganda of all political persuasions. Given a
referendum today, to vote, - in or out of Uganda, over 95% will vote OUT!!!!
Saying there is no functioning political structure, from which Buganda will
benefit is not only wrong, but lacking in the understanding of Buganda
political structure. The role of the kabaka will be revised accordingly, while
the rest of the structures remain exemplary in the political sense.
For the rest of Ugandans,the structure that Buganda has, should be a source of
all African pride. A show case example, that we can organise ourselves, many
create a basis for general development. The rest of Ugandan regions need to
emulate the setting of Buganda, build similar structures, and work towards
getting the best from the abundant resources in their regions.
Ssekajja
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On 25 Jun 2015, at 01:04, Ssekajja <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> wrote:
EM,
I will look at one issue at a time, over the coming days.
You are saying,;
1} Changing Uganda from Unitary to Federal is a political issue than cultural
issue, remove Mengo from it entirely then you will start to make sense.
Well, reading that sentence tells me that you are trying to disentangle culture
from politics, and the other way round. But the fact of matter is none of these
two societal aspects work independently of each other. They feed on each other,
and therefore influence / determine each other. As society we are organised
and function on the basis of culture, economy and politics. None of these works
in a vacuum, away from the others.
You seem to indicate that, that definition of "Mengo as a cultural institution"
set apart from the politics of the country is a phenomenon that is indigenous
to the history of Uganda. That is not true, you are very mistaken. This was a
creation of this government that was intent on destroying our inherent and
customary political structures, for the sole purpose of exploitation. Who
defined Mengo as a cultural institution, after employing it's services to
engage in political/ military conflict to wage war against Obote's government.
And let's not forget that it was Obote who had first relegated the regional and
natural political leaders in Uganda to "small time, behind the scenes" cultural
heads, for political advantage.
The only good federal state will be determined by the "highest degree of
confidence, positivism and optimism' that can be exhibited by all regions and
peoples. That is, the belief that we can all come together as we are and
contribute to the development of the country. There is nothing therefore that
should preclude the 1962 constitution being the basis of the new
arrangement,with useful changes, such as a rotational presidency, and creation
of a federal council.
A marriage is what it is,- a marriage!!! You take the other as they are, or you
don't. When you set in place conditions with intent of wanting to not be in
marriage, the marriage will never be!!!
That aside, what do the majority of Baganda want TODAY? Do they want an
absolute king or a constitutional king fit for the 21 century?
I would like to see a constitutional monarch, with his position among the
Baganda kept in place, and the power to govern in the hands of the Lukiko,.
EM, it is good on your part to realise that federalism is good, though fearing
the influence Mengo may have on it. But that is an over-exaggeration, with
intent of creating doubt in the minds of Ugandans.
Ssekajja
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On 24 Jun 2015, at 10:14, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Sekajja
Discussing Uganda federalism is not a new topic, there are men that even packed
their things and flew to Uganda for now Museveni is going to write a new
constitution that will change Uganda from a unitary system to a Federal system,
WBK is among those that packed. I base my argument on common sense facts that
have failed to be common to all living in this illusion.
1} Changing Uganda from Unitary to Federal is a political issue than cultural
issue, remove Mengo from it entirely then you will start to make sense.
2} How will Buganda benefit from this political change when it has failed to
create a political structure to sell it?
3} If we are abandon unitary for Uganda is too big to be lead from Kampala
isn’t Buganda also too big to be lead from Mengo?
4} What will lead Buganda?
{a} Will it is be Mengo? If the answer to that question is yes then you are
walking back to the 1966 crisis of turning Mengo into a cultural but a
political entity which will never work and the kingdom will again become the
victim
{b} Will it be a political structure in Buganda? If so shouldn’t have you
started by building that structure before you sold Federalism? If you create it
who will be the boss of the other? The elected political structure in Buganda
or Ssabassajja in Mengo?
5} If Baganda love federalism why have they refused to support political
party’s like Kabaka Yekka which would have defended the interests of Buganda in
Parliament?
6} If the entire country is divisible, why isn’t Buganda divisible so that we
get two or three federal states in Buganda due to its size?
7} Federalism is the crown of democracy, Canada used that system after they
were respecting laws, Ontarians were not decapitating Nova Scotians, and if you
killed anyone the law was at your door. Your using Federalism as a democratic
panacea on the woes of Uganda is very delusional.
8} How are you going to federate people like Acholi and Langi that are even
uncomfortable to sit with each other in a very simple political party as UPC?
9} How will you Federate again Acholi with West Nile people they forced into a
massacre as Ombacci?
10} Federalism is built on money transfer from the have provinces to un-have
provinces, do you see Acholi writing a check every month to Buganda or vice
versa?
I would have loved to continue with the unanswered questions but some of us
have jobs and I gotta go.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected] [
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Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 3:56 AM
To: <mailto:[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: {UAH} EVERY DISCUSSION, UNCOUTH - WHAT LANGUAGE ARE THESE PEOPLE
SPEAKING?
EM,
We have to come to learn one thing about you. You don't shy away from topics,
even when they are out of your "league". It does not matter if your
contribution will adds nothing of substance, you will at least try to convolute
the subject, Add value to a discussion, rather than thinking just jumping in
and making stale statements.
Of course we may not have federalism for next 100 or even 1000 years (to please
you!!!), but at what cost??? Well, I can tell the cost, - stagnation, political
chaos, backwardness, bad government, corruption, and tribal conflict. The
majority of Ugandans will live in chronic poverty, including your own Nubi/
Lugbara people.
What are your suggestions on how we move the country forward? Try and
think!!!!!! As you enjoy freedoms in Canada, a federal state, the Nubi/ Lugbara
in West Nile want the same freedoms.
I suggested that you all read about how federalism functions in Canada,
Switzerland, and how the European Union works. Don't forget to read Gregory
Fossedal's Direct Democracy in Switzerland. Please don't just jump in!!!!!!'
You remind me of some of my students, who always felt they had to answer a
question, even if they had no clue what the answer should be!!!!!!! Add value
or just read what others are contributing. I think people like Ocen and Dr
Kayondo are adding value to this discussion, albeit meeting better value from
the federalists.
I believe strongly unlike you, Mr Mulindwa, that I will see Uganda federalise
in my life time. More voices are joining us in a quest of a lasting solution
for peace!!!
Ssekajja
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On 24 Jun 2015, at 06:44, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Friends
Do you realize how Akim Odong runs from factual postings? The one where I told
him we were to turn barrackses into learning centers but export guns out of
Uganda, that never arrived on his screen. It is strange how these friends want
to tie the country into violence, thank God they will never make it, for I do
not see a UPC government back in power as I do not see Uganda becoming a
Federal state in the next 100 years.
Take a term illusion and paste it on your door.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: <mailto:[email protected]>
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<mailto:[email protected]>
mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of akim odong
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:49 AM
To: 'kaliro45' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
Subject: Re: {UAH} EVERY DISCUSSION, UNCOUTH - WHAT LANGUAGE ARE THESE PEOPLE
SPEAKING?
Gwokto;
You have been away for far too long. That is how everybody in Uganda speaks.
worst of it all, every body now wants to speak like Mu7 with too much
hesitation, too much rrrrs, to many anecdotes and never seriously bringing a
sentence to completion without an unfitting joke of sort. We are used to it!
Akim
Tolerance is a stage in civilisation!
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:17 PM, Gwokto La'Kitgum <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
<http://www.youtube.com/embed/QqkbxhBQPJM> ....... withdraws support for
controversial structure
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"Even a small dog can piss on a tall Building", Jim Hightower
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