On 16/01/2013 15:56, "Ben Ward" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Thanks to all for the excellent responses. I can continue this discussion on 
the list and add any relevant findings from the meeting.

Since I am getting a very good price on Juniper MX and nobody's said "forget 
PPPoE, it's old hat" [Correction: Neil has just dropped that in] the question I 
have next is about national coverage. I imagine WBC are the only ones capable 
of coverage in sparsely populated areas whilst still offering fibre in cities. 
I'd like to be corrected!  Also considering: TalkTalk and C&W broadband 
wholesale.

PPPoE will still be around for a while but I think you have to look at where 
the network is evolving in the medium term – what can we do to bin/simplify 
BRAS/LNS/BNG has to be on the agenda for the longer term its a horrible box 
that holds on to packets too long.

However, or LNS MX is a good platform for this also. But just beware of JunOS 
feature velocity.


The LNS would terminate both internet and private network subscribers, so would 
have a dual purpose. It's likely there's a crossover point where the density 
makes sense to unbundle. So far the session capacity is likely to number in the 
mid hundreds for a quick ROI.

MX will do this easy but distribution of network functionality is vital.


Regarding M2M, I see AQL & A&A can offer an LNS termination for mobile data, 
but I see no mention of PPPoX - is something else used?

Having read some of the comments again I must admit I am interested in 
Firebrick, particularly the bonding and the price may not be as high as I first 
calculated. I'll give Rev K a call when I look more closely at this part.


Cheers,
Neil.

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