On 16/01/2013 15:56, Ben Ward wrote:

> Since I am getting a very good price on Juniper MX and nobody's said
> "forget PPPoE, it's old hat" [Correction: Neil has just dropped that in]
> the question I have next is about national coverage. I imagine WBC are
> the only ones capable of coverage in sparsely populated areas whilst
> still offering fibre in cities. I'd like to be corrected!  Also
> considering: TalkTalk and C&W broadband wholesale.

Also consider O2/Be wholesale.  Don't forget that in sparsely populated
areas the only option may be 20CN (i.e. the exchange hasn't been
upgraded) which means you need to commit to IPstream connect bandwidth
on your WBMC link(s) as well as WBC/21CN.  IPSC bandwidth is hideously
expensive :s

> The LNS would terminate both internet and private network subscribers,
> so would have a dual purpose. It's likely there's a crossover point
> where the density makes sense to unbundle. So far the session capacity
> is likely to number in the mid hundreds for a quick ROI.

Dropping a customer into a VRF is usually pretty simple on most
platforms.  Unless you have a small number of VRFs using MPLS is
certainly easier than bringing each VRF out onto its own .1q subint on
each LNS (i.e. VRF-lite).  Alternatively you could session steer or L2TP
tunnel switch to a customer's own dedicated LNS (which could be
Cisco/Linux/FreeBSD on physical hardware or a virtual machine).

You mention PPPoE and unbundling, presumably then you want something
that will act as both an LNS for terminating from telcos and PPPoE
concentrator for direct connection to a DSLAM?  We looked at unbundling
some local exchanges a few years ago (with a view to taking FTTC GEA
direct from Openreach where available) but the numbers simply didn't
stack up.

Rich.

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