Yeh I agree, we have them in Birmingham now, and manchester has been promised, however they won't do THE yet for us - sigh...
On 12 August 2013 21:17, Peter Knapp <[email protected]> wrote: > Darren.**** > > > VM definitely do 10gig uplinks, but only on certain Metnets.**** > > > They still go via a 6850 (two SFP+ ports on them, one for VM, one for > us/you).**** > > > We have them in THN, THE and off Leeds too (after some hassle and an > upgrade their end)**** > > ** ** > > Hassle them!**** > > ** ** > > Peter Knapp**** > > **** > > T: 0113 294 66 99**** > > F: 0113 273 00 58**** > > E: [email protected]**** > > W: www.ccsleeds.co.uk**** > > **** > > Registered in England, # 350 7910**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Darren O'Connor > *Sent:* 12 August 2013 21:05 > *To:* Charlie Boisseau; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [uknof] Virgin Demarc Boxes [Was: virgin media delivered > leased line fibre service - their CPE and us, and expected speeds.]**** > > ** ** > > Virgin have given us (two so far) Alcatel 6850s which have 24 X Gig ports > as mentioned. We use these for vlan based circuits so one physical port can > hold 10 X100Mb links. We can pack quite lot of links into 1U > > We've asked VM for 10Gb uplinks before and they are still telling us not > yet. IT would be ideal considering the amount of 1Gb uplinks we have with > them. > > Darren > www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie > > **** > ------------------------------ > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:38:08 +0000 > Subject: [uknof] Virgin Demarc Boxes [Was: virgin media delivered leased > line fibre service - their CPE and us, and expected speeds.]**** > > Sorry to change the subject a bit, but this thread has reminded me of > something I thought I might ask:**** > > ** ** > > Some of our PoPs are filling up at an alarming rate with Virgin Alcatel > demarc boxes that only have one or two ports used. This is mainly because > we have a number of circuits that are on 1Gig bearers, and the Alcatel > boxes only have two gigabit ports (one NNI and one UNI), so typically a 1G > customer circuit will take up 1U of rackspace (nevermind a separate fibre > cross connect to the Virgin ODF).**** > > ** ** > > Having said that, strangely we just had a new circuit installed into one > of our PoPs that ended up terminating on a LightningEdge LE-311. At least > that box has 4 gig ports - but it's an absolute monster compared to the > Alcatel.**** > > ** ** > > The old Pandatel card+chassis based solution was a lot better suited to > gigabit circuits, because you could get 15 or 16 cards in a 4U chassis > (much like Openreach EADs), but unfortunately Virgin don't offer this > anymore. We've suggested they give us a Transmode box, but I think they > only deploy those for wavelength services, and wouldn't want to waste them > on Ethernet circuits (despite the volume of circuits we give them).**** > > ** ** > > - Does anyone know of any other EDDs Virgin have been known to use that > might have 10G uplink?**** > > - Does anyone take L2 services from Virgin on a VLAN based delivery? I > know they do this, but I wonder if it's just going to have the same density > issues?**** > > ** ** > > Any shared experiences here would be helpful in our 'guided suggestions' > to our Virgin account manager!**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > ** ** > > C**** > > ** ** > > -- **** > > *Charlie Boisseau***** > > ** ** > > Fluency Communications Ltd.**** > > *e.* [email protected]**** > > *w.* http://fluency.net.uk/**** > > *t.* 0845 874 7000**** > > ** ** > > Fluency Communications Ltd. is part of the > Commsworld<http://www.commsworld.com/> > Group.**** > > ** ** > > This Email and files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended > for the sole use of the individual or organisation addressed. 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They moved to Alcatel a few years back and had some fun > with learning how to commission, this was after 3-4 years of Lightning Edge. > > For MIA if they use BGP multihop they often put an ME3[4|6|8]00 switch in > the way as well as the Alcatel, for lesser bandwidth's it's Alcatel + > generally Cisco 2900 ish > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > website: www.knowledgeit.co.uk | blog: www.knowledgeit.co.uk/blog | > twitter: @KnowledgeITUK > > Knowledge Limited, Company Registration: 1554385 > Registered Office: New Century House, Crowther Road, Washington, Tyne & > Wear. NE38 0AQ > Leeds Office: Viscount Court, Leeds Road, Rothwell, Leeds. LS26 0GR > > Tel: 0845 142 0020. Fax: 0845 142 0021 > > E-Mail Disclaimer: This e-mail message is intended to be received only by > persons entitled to receive the confidential information it may contain. > E-mail messages to clients of Knowledge IT may contain information that is > confidential and legally privileged. 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