Answers inline > On 30 Oct 2013, at 22:58, "Neil J. McRae" <n...@domino.org> wrote: > > Michael, > Absolute rubbish!
Joy > > How do tesco get food onto shelves? > p sure they have a contingency plan > How does the NHS exchange information on patients? > Bless. I am so glad that it appears that the NHS exchanges useful info in a meaningful manner, makes me very proud to be a part of it. > How does the country manage its infrastructure in the widest sense. > It tends to route around bad things and shut down or ignore that which it can't > Answer-> The Internet’s that we build and operate today. > > Our networks in docklands are Critical national infrastructure. The army > won’t be holding us back, they will be assisting us to build the plan to > recover. > Yes except it won't be about roping in some people. Your infrastructure will be u/s I thought we learned this from the WTC. > I don’t agree with your assumption that this wouldn’t be allowed, look at > Japan for a reference of it being allowed. Is it desirable, no it isn’t, but > sometimes you just have to roll your sleeves up and put on the radiation > suits. > Japan was a very different type of event and those weren't volunteers getting your networks to stay up so that packets could flow, they were trying to stop cores from going critical. Answer to this is: If you haven't already been part of the planning "in case" so already know ~exactly~ what would happen then you aren't considered to be critical. Sorry... I am sure there are assets there that are deemed to be v important but I also am 100% sure that they aren't critical failure points. which was the point of this > Neil. > Best wishes Mike > From: Michael Simpson <mikie.simp...@gmail.com> > Date: Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:00 > To: "Neil J. McRae" <n...@domino.org> > Cc: "uknof@lists.uknof.org.uk" <uknof@lists.uknof.org.uk> > Subject: Re: [uknof] London Proof Tier 1 - Manchester TCW > > > >> On 30 October 2013 21:16, Neil J. McRae <n...@domino.org> wrote: >> It would’t remove the access to the site. It would just mean you needed a >> lot of volunteer to spend a short amount of time in the location. A dirty >> bomb like this would most likely do little damage to the infrastructure in >> the location. >> >> Regards, >> Neil. > > That sounds good but it really isn't going to happen. You won't be allowed to > expose civilian volunteers to Caesium dust until the area has been > decontaminated and getting the POPs back up is not going to be the first > priority. > I agree that there will be very little physical damage (compared to something > like Grangemouth going up) but the buckets of diesel toting volunteers won't > get through the army cordons. > > >a lot of volunteer > > heh > that's you bankrupted from the class action brought by the first people to > get cancer post event whether it is linked or not. > Inhaled caesium can be horrendous and removal of access is part of the reason > for these bombs (maximises both terror and disruption) > > http://www.aristatek.com/drjbomb.aspx > > that was based on one ounce of Ce137 > > Also, just for fun, try doing some stuff in an NBC suit and do some costings > on decontamination units that are suitable for this threat (eg not just > asbestos grade) bearing in mind that the demand for them locally might be > *quite* high. > > If I was part of the team controlling the MI and you came to me asking for > entry to fill your genny I would be disinclined to allow it and unless the > facility is filtered to clean room standards the whole lot is junk anyway. > > I might even be cheeky and ask you why you weren't regionally diverse in your > connections but i would be under a fair bit of stress at the time. > :) > > mike > </derail>
