Surely if BT were genuinely in the DC (i.e. they have a WDM capability in the building), then they don’t need to buy tails from anyone.
When we last got a quote from BT, they insisted that they had to include the cost of a brand new Ciena platform at both ends (despite both ends being major BT exchanges). -- Charlie Boisseau Fluency Communications Ltd. e. [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> w. http://fluency.net.uk/ t. 0845 874 7000 Fluency Communications Ltd. is part of the Commsworld<http://www.commsworld.com/> Group. This Email and files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended for the sole use of the individual or organisation addressed. If you have received this Email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete it without using, copying, storing, forwarding or disclosing its contents to any other person While Fluency has endeavoured to ensure that any attachments do not contain viruses it will not be liable for any losses incurred by the recipient. Fluency Communications Ltd. Registered in Scotland. Company Number: SC390685. Registered Office Address: 45 Peffer Place, Edinburgh, EH16 4BB On 6 Jan 2014, at 13:54, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Simon, BT has to buy tails from OR outside of the WECLA region. There is no such thing as on-net from that perspective. Neil. On 06/01/2014 13:53, "Simon Lockhart" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Neil, It's not that "some DC's are a problem", but rather (in my experience) that BTW does not offer any incentive for having one or both ends of a circuit be in a datacenter. There's no 'on-net' discount. Whereas, other carriers treat DC's as on-net, and there are no 'tail circuit' costs - just port costs. Can BTW offer 10G waves between a Manchester DC and a London DC for less than 20k/year? Several of the competition can... Simon On Mon Jan 06, 2014 at 01:48:06PM +0000, Neil J. McRae wrote: There are some DC's that are a problem. On 06/01/2014 13:27, "Charlie Boisseau" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Last time I asked BTW for a quote on optical services it was an order of magnitude more expensive than the competition (more than 10x). We recently put a wavelength in between Manchester and London. SSE were the most competitive, followed by M247. C -- Charlie Boisseau Fluency Communications Ltd. e. [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> w. http://fluency.net.uk/ t. 0845 874 7000 Fluency Communications Ltd. is part of the Commsworld<http://www.commsworld.com/> Group. This Email and files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended for the sole use of the individual or organisation addressed. If you have received this Email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete it without using, copying, storing, forwarding or disclosing its contents to any other person While Fluency has endeavoured to ensure that any attachments do not contain viruses it will not be liable for any losses incurred by the recipient. Fluency Communications Ltd. Registered in Scotland. Company Number: SC390685. Registered Office Address: 45 Peffer Place, Edinburgh, EH16 4BB On 6 Jan 2014, at 12:06, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: BT Wholesale can deliver this for you. Optical and transparent (can also to Ethernet delivery via MPLS). Neil. On 06/01/2014 10:32, "Ed Butler" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Preferably a wavelength-type service, MPLS would be a possibility too. On 6 January 2014 10:05, James Bensley <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On 6 January 2014 09:28, Ed Butler <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We've got a client looking for a pair of 10G circuits from Docklands->Manchester. There are a few options for DCs either end. Any recommendations on who would be sensible to approach for these? Thanks, -- Ed Butler What sort of service are you looking for MPLS style pseudo wire? IXReach can to this, I think Allegro can do this too (but it's not on their site, inquire via phone), dare I say it but I think C4L can do this too. Or leased fibre service? Virgin Media can do this, I have given up on shitty level 3, try Above Net / Zayo also. James. -- Ed Butler -- Simon Lockhart | * Server Co-location * ADSL * Domain Registration * Director | * Domain & Web Hosting * Connectivity * Consultancy * Bogons Ltd | * http://www.bogons.net/ * Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> *
