> <sky-pie>  I did just wonder if it's worth the time of a few of the
> smaller ISPs to get together to design & build their own 'open' CPE,

We could but that's not the main issue. I want BT to be responsbile
for the service we're paying them to deliver (lots, more than they
retail to their own customers). Not half the job leaving us
guessing what isn't right in someones home 200 miles away and
with no info on what is going on but they're sure it must be
our kit or the home wiring and not the external wire they just
disturbed while isntalling someone else. Once you're done eating
your profit (if any) on that line for the next 10 years they
slap a fine (SFI) on you for insisting they go fix it

All that BS has to stop, and it had for a while. My experience of
BT FTTC service, with supplied modem, is it is excellent. Not
everything we'd like but way better than the ADSL mess.

It's great for Sky/etc to save a few quid, so they can buy more
customers with prices lower than our cost, by substituting their own
rubbish cpe instead of BTs rubbish CPE but they should not be
allowed to use their scale to further disadvantage smaller suppliers

> including hardware & software specification. Incorporate it as a
> co-operative entity and, together, compete with the 'big few'.

Whatever CPE you have you're still paying many times their
cost of backhaul, then they add TV which cannot afford to
let your users do much of, even if you could get the sports
right.

This is a game you can't win, best not play it with them

brandon

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