> > This is a game you can't win, best not play it with them
 
>  1. There /are/ other ISPs playing this game, and finding their own USPs
> to continue doing so - if they were dropping like flies, I would believe
> it was completely worthless to pursue it - just doesn't appear to be the
> case. Case in point: this thread exists.

Yes, the don't play their (bt retail/similar) game, play your own.

>  2. Unifying such a CPE/NTE product could also serve to provide a
> unified voice with which to deal with Openreach over faults

Might be a hard battle, what % of lines aren't the big 5? How
many do we need to have an effect?

> Getting angry with the way Openreach operate hasn't solved anything to
> date, that I'm aware of.

Dunno, ask Adrian. The no CPE is being forced on Openreach so
this time they appear blameless, they were doing good.

brandon

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