Hi Nigel,

Thanks for offering.

On 02/09/2016 13:25, Nigel Titley wrote:


On 02/09/16 12:37, Paul Civati wrote:
On 2 Sep 2016, at 12:27, Paul Thornton <[email protected]> wrote:

Does anyone know what, precisely, one needs to get from Companies House to 
satisfy this new bit of Dutch bureacracy?  I can't see that there's any way to 
get CH to re-issue a registration document with a new date except for a 
re-incorporation due to a name change!

Pass.. but this new bureaucracy is probably because of the issues with people 
creating
additional LIRs purely to gain IPv4 space.

Do you want me to find out?

I would be keen to understand why there has been a change - and more importantly, what supposed problem this solution is meant to fix. Involving Athina in a ticket around the simple task of establishing an LIR seems overkill, but that was my next port of call as I'm stuck.

In the specifically British case (and the Ireland situation appears to be similar), we have no way of obtaining "an up to date copy of the registration papers" which is what I have been asked for. We can provide (a) the original registration document, (b) a UK Companies house information summary dated at the point of download, or (c) a recent Annual Return. I have offered all of these and been told that they aren't good enough, which is surprising as the certificate of incorporation plus one of the others proves that the company is still a valid entity.

If there is some magic "You need to ask Companies House for form ABC1234, we'll accept that" then (a) it needs to be clearly communicated on the web pages, and (b) can someone at the RIPE NCC let me know what it is. That would be a bit of a pain, but at least it would be progess.

I personally don't see how any of this stops additional LIRs to gain v4 space - and frankly we all agreed (at a somewhat testy GM) in Copenhagen that there wasn't much we could do about that anyway - and as one organisation is capable of registering multiple LIRs it is a moot point.

Paul.

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