On 7 May 2020, at 13:33, Tim Chown wrote:
On 7 May 2020, at 13:31, David Reader <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7 May 2020, at 13:25, Tim Chown wrote:
Just for clarity, the above are not my words. I don’t disagree
with your comments in general though.
Tim
Ah…
Your MUA is emitting misleading plain-text.
If I switch to view the HTML part it’s correctly quoted. The plain
text isn’t.
It looks like you might be using a Microsoft product. They’ve never
understood e-mail.
Mac Mail. Seems to come out fine when I read what I send with mutt,
so am confused...
Tim
Well, this is the raw text/plain part in your message, as I received it:
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If i decode the base64 I get what’s below, which has no quoting at all
in it.
If I look at the text/html part, the quoting is wrapped in:
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">
<div class="gmail_quote">
It looks like your text/plain is just the html with the tags stripped
out.
That raises the question.. did your MUA send that, or did something
mangle it on the way?
I missed your “x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2)” amongst all
the outlook.com & other microsoft header junk from it’s journey
through Exchange..
If I look at the raw source of what I’ve sent, MailMate is doing the
right thing. Hopefully it’s reaching you un-mangled..
dave@sh:~$ cat | base64 -d
On 7 May 2020, at 11:32, Aled Morris
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 11:19, Paul Bone
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The example of Universities with a /16 that have not implemented IPv6
because they have not needed to is just one example of the scale of the
problem.
I'm interested to know which Universities have not implemented IPv6
There’s only a dozen or so universities that have any form of
significant IPv6 deployment. Imperial College are the “flagship”
deployment; they are 100G connected to Janet and commonly ship several
10’s of Gbit/s of IPv6 data transfers, particularly from CERN. Their
new compute cluster and research file store is IPv6-only, internally.
I doubt there's a correlation between owning legacy IPv4 space and not
implementing IPv6. The organisations I've dealt with who have no
interest in IPv6 also have very little IPv4 address space and use
RFC1918 extensively internally. The problem seems to be that networking
is rarely their core function - they are in some other industry and the
amount of expertise they have for networking is spread thin, which
limits their ability to embrace change. Their engineers don't attend
UKNOF, they aren't in our sphere of influence, they barely realise IPv6
is a thing - to them it's some research project that someone mentioned
once. Until their customers demand it, they won't react. They might as
well engrave "If it aint broke, don't fix it" on their computer room
door.
Well, universities and colleges will teach networking; there’s at
least an argument there that IPv6 is desirable to support teaching as
well as research. I’d consider it odd to have (say) computer science
graduates that have not been exposed to Ipv6 on campus during their
studies, or maybe that’s part of the problem?
One of the drivers for IPv6 adoption at universities is the CERN
experiments; there’s about 20 universities who are deploying or have
deployed IPv6 in support of that, given the community (WLCG) mandated
IPv6. Around 80% of the storage is now IPv6-enabled, I believe. There
was a talk about this at UKNOF not long ago. They’re now looking at
where IPv4 can be turned off, and when.
Tim
