Hello!

 Just a heads up we may look to do a panel on this for UKNOF47, having had
a submitted talk for a european org taking dc space in the uk and the fun
and games around that - we're keen to see the other side (UK->EU) and
openly discuss.

 Would anyone be interested in talking / being on said panel ?

 Happy to take pings off-list

Thanks

Chris


On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 10:23 PM Nick Hilliard <[email protected]> wrote:

> John P Bourke wrote on 31/01/2021 21:21:
> > What happens now hen you want to send kit or spares to your
> > installations in the EU ?
> >
> > There is paperwork.  Do you have to pay VAT ?
> >
> > What if you bring it back for repair ?
> >
> > I guess you just buy in the EU ?
>
> Moving equipment across customs barriers is a thundering headache and
> can be surprisingly expensive.  If this is something you need to do on
> anything other than a very occasional basis, you should think about
> getting professional advice from a shipping agent about what to expect.
> I don't know enough about the exact details of the UK/EU trade deal to
> know what exact pitfalls are there, but every one of the EU <-> not-EU
> shipments that have passed my desk over the last 5 years have caused
> inordinate headwreck of one form or another - delays, expense, paperwork
> - and in most cases, all three.
>
> There are various options for purchasing kit:
>
> 0. buy in UK, ship to EU and handle the awful, awful pain yourself
> 1. use a VAR in UK who can fulfil orders in EU from UK
> 1.1. use a VAR in UK who has an EU operating company and can fulfil
> orders in EU from EU
> 2. use a VAR in EU, and pay from UK
> 3. set up a local operating company in EU and handle everything from there
>
> If you have reasonable volume requirements and a tangible EU business
> ops split, option 3 has a good deal of merit associated with it, but it
> requires business changes and buy-in from higher-ups.  In other words,
> it's a business strategy change rather than an operational change in
> procurement practice.  If you have not-insubstantial business operations
> in the EU, it's likely that this would be the best long term option.
>
> Probably you need to bin the idea of return-to-uk for repair, unless
> you're ok with the idea of regularly applying power drills to your
> cranium and stabbing out your eyes with rusty forks.   Not judging, btw
> - some people do this for a living.
>
> Nick
>
>

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