Sorry to be a bit dumb here. Surely in the ISP world you need density, performance and bomb proof BGP and L2/L3 “tunnels”.
Do ISPs need full feature Top end vendor kit ? John Bourke on Mobile On 27 Jul 2021, at 18:55, William Hilsum <[email protected]> wrote: Just seen this and as a multi-vendor partner/reseller (not touting for business), I’ll give you a bit of a different view point. Are you trying to achieve the best performance/technically superior option or best price? Cisco are the “reliable” choice and will do what it says – you won’t go wrong, but expect to pay for it. Juniper – at higher end will most likely give you the same performance and save a minimum of ~30%, especially if you have a bid from a rival vendor…. Just make sure you use their tools/port checker – We had a client who went for MX204s in order to “go 100Gb” in the near future whilst allowing them to use a load of 10Gb ports now (and breakouts)… They declined presales/consultancy and only wanted parts. The MX204 ran out of MACs and they couldn’t utilise all the ports… However, just to chuck something else out there… Have you considered moving to L3 switching?! The Jericho chips are amazing and we have recently been getting involved with Arista – other than route quantity (still a very good count), you will end up getting MANY more 100Gb ports at a fraction of the price (and, it will probably save you cash in power over going ASR 9006)! (We have also been looking at Extreme recently due to a client requirement, but, I don’t have any feedback on price/performance other than I’m involved with a rapid growth company who loves it and why I’m looking) In any case, any manufacturer you chose will do a brilliant job! 😊 William <image368160.png> William Hilsum EZPC Limited Managing Director M: +44 7828252201<tel:+44%207828252201> E: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> W: https://ezpcltd.com<https://ezpcltd.com/> 2 Cross Way Petts Wood Kent BR5 1PF, UK EZPC Ltd is a company registered in England and Wales under number 4781783 with VAT Registration GB820559632. Registered office: 2 Cross Way, Petts Wood, Kent, BR5 1PF, United Kingdom. The information in this message is confidential and is intended for the use of the addressee only. From: uknof <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Catalin Dominte Sent: 27 July 2021 17:22 To: Charl Tintinger <[email protected]>; Andy Hunter <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [uknof] Age Old Question - Juniper vs Cisco CAUTION: This email originated from outside of EZPC. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. I can vouch for the MX960 SCB3 with MPC7E’s as a really really good workhorse. But again as it was mentioned before, it is always good to have a trustworthy support partner not just a sales company. Not sure on the Cisco side. :). Catalin ________________________________ From: uknof <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Charl Tintinger <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2021 2:52:14 PM To: Andy Hunter <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [uknof] Age Old Question - Juniper vs Cisco My 2p's worth.... Having spent a fair bit of cash with both vendors in recent years and trying to avoid the inevitable 'mud slinging', my advice is to find a good partner / reseller who can help decide. Someone who understands the products well. I'm not talking about box shifters, too many of them, very few add value. As ultimately very few can buy direct, I find that having a good partner, backed off to you and your own to eventually test, validate, kick and ultimately decide, is best. I can refer you to a company that I've worked with in the past and generally had great results, let me know offline if interested. Charl On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 2:41 PM Andy Hunter <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi All I know I have seen this question posted before, and have seen various responses, I just wanted to check if anything had changed with advice. We are upgrading our network to accommodate 100Gb, and are replacing our existing Cisco infrastructure, whilst investigating this we have been seduced with the power vs capability of the Juniper vs Cisco Question. For us this is between Juniper MX480 / 960 Premium models vs Cisco ASR 9006. My question is twofold – What are other people using, and have you got any gotchas to keep an eye out for, and, are we missing any other vendors. 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