Not to mention that the bookstore wants to sell MS software - after all,
the store itself does get a cut of the sale.

We talked about this kind of thing in previous semesters, and one really
awesome idea we had was to hit the co-op crowd with some CDs using a
"love, freedom, and sticking it to the man" theme.

Another interesting idea was to promote it to the CS and engineering
crowd as a better alternative to using the detective cluster (which it
is - unless things got better after I left).

Seeing as the Diamondback will print basically anything that has decent
spelling and grammar, I'd also advocate someone (some people?) writing a
few shill letters and op-eds about how great Linux is, and how the
University is too dependent on Apple and Microsoft. For maximum effect,
someone else could write a first letter about how we should use
Microsoft _more_. I know this is vaguely unethical, but it happens all
the time. You should see how some organizations get their "news" (read:
press releases).

-DMZ

On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 12:21 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On the subject of annoying evangelism, I'd also suggest that hanging
> around the bookstore trying to dissuade people from buying MS software
> might not be a good idea- people might not appreciate strangers coming up
> and bothering them about their software purchases.  Perhaps it would be
> better to talk to the bookstore about setting up some kind of kiosk or
> table with CDs and a sign, and have someone available to answer any
> questions people might have.
> 
> -Derek
> 
> > At the risk of sounding too PC, could we find another word besides
> > "evangelism"? I personally don't care at all (it's true, after all), but
> > it rubs certain people the wrong way, because they don't like Christian
> > evangelicals much at all.
> >
> > I suggest "advocacy" instead.
> >
> > If there are any specific funding needs, please send those out when you
> > figure them out. I'd be happy to donate a few bucks to get more Linux on
> > campus. Also, let use know about any really specific bits of work, I
> > wouldn't mind helping out. Maybe you should toss up an issue tracker on
> > the UMLUG site...
> >
> > -DMZ
> >
> > On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 11:43 -0500, John Demme wrote:
> >> Last night was the discussion meeting on future evangelism.  I'd like
> >> to thank the very few people who showed up despite the cold.
> >>
> >> Here's what we've decided to do:
> >>
> >> We'll be forming two committees- an Evangelism committee and an
> >> Education Committee.
> >>
> >> The Evangelism committee will be in charge of F/OSS and Linux
> >> evangelism.  The initial committee will be active for this semester,
> >> all summer, and part of the beginning of the fall 2006 semester.  One
> >> of their first acts will be deciding on one or two CDs to be
> >> distributing.  We want one to be a CD of F/OSS software for Windows
> >> and another to be a Linux boot CD.  The obvious choice for the latter
> >> is Knoppix, but they'll be evaluating multiple options.  If both
> >> Windows stuff and the Linux boot CD are available on the same CD, so
> >> be it- easier for us.  I'm told (by Anthony) that Ubunutu makes a CD
> >> like this.  It was also suggested that this committee coordinate with
> >> the University Helpdesk to distribute F/OSS software- putting links to
> >> applications like Open Office on the applicable Helpdesk pages.  It
> >> would also be desirable to get OIT to distribute our official CD en
> >> masse to all of the incoming freshmen in the fall.  Lastly, I would
> >> like this committee to, in the early fall (when people are buying
> >> their books and such), arrange to have some one to be at the campus
> >> book store whenever they're open to dissuade people from buying
> >> products like MS Office and instead offer them our F/OSS CD.  These
> >> are just some ideas to start with, and the committee will be
> >> responsible for generating more ideas and implementing them.
> >>
> >> Next is the Education committee.  They'll be responsible for educating
> >> people about F/OSS and Linux.  Although this overlaps a bit with the
> >> Evangelism committee's mission, I feel that it's different enough to
> >> warrant a separate committee.  One of my biggest pet peeves is when
> >> Professors distribute assignments and necessary material in MS doc
> >> format, considering that anything slightly past text doesn't work in
> >> OO half the time.  One of the things the education committee would be
> >> responsible for is educating the entire University faculty/staff (or
> >> whoever will listen) on topics such as this, and alternatives to using
> >> the doc format (such as HTML or PDF).  A lecture on closed vs open
> >> standards might be in order.
> >>
> >> I am (as of now) looking for people to head each committee and staff
> >> them.  If you're interested, please send me an email telling me such.
> >>
> >> We also spent some time generating ideas for meetings.  The
> >> "Evangelism Trifecta" that we used last semester (Revolution OS, then
> >> Intro to Linux talk the next week, then the Installfest the week
> >> after) will fall under the domain of the Evangelism Committee and
> >> we'll probably do it again this semester.  We also thought about
> >> running a series of "howto" tutorials on various topics- Samba intro,
> >> Linux gaming, Xorg, apache, VPN, AFS, iptables, ect...  These meetings
> >> would probably fall under the domain of the Education Committee.  Ajay
> >> also suggested that we have sort of a "book swap" meeting and/or
> >> website section.  He'd like people to post IT/CS books (on to the
> >> website) that they have and are willing to loan out.  Also a meeting
> >> where various people talk about what books they've read and would
> >> suggest (especially if they're on Orielly Safari- free for University
> >> people) is a possible meeting.
> >>
> >> I have also felt that we haven't had as many presentations at a more
> >> abstract and complex level as of late.  I'd like to have more
> >> presentations like Rob's security research talk last semester.  For
> >> instance, I'd love to have a talk about how the Linux kernel is
> >> structured and how it works.  (Is there anyone here qualified to give
> >> that talk?)  Linux as an RTOS and an example of a Linux embedded
> >> device might also be a cool talk. (Anybody for that one?)
> >>
> >> I'll be scheduling the next meeting soon with Peter as he'll be giving
> >> a talk on the Campus VPN, and I'll probably add on to his talk with
> >> something on OpenVPN, since it's applicable and I just finished doing
> >> an OpenVPN roll-out.
> >>
> >> That's all for now- don't forget to let me know if you're interested
> >> in heading or staffing a committee.  I apologize for using the term
> >> "committee" so many times.  I cringed every time I typed it.
> >>
> >> ~John Demme
> >> UMLUG President
> >
> 
> 
> 

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