Definitely, if you're going to compile kernels, then it's much harder
nowadays because there's so much more going on. But that's not a
function of distro. For some time now Slack includes precompiled kernels
that just work. (As do all the other distros, I'm sure.)


On 2/28/22 11:17 AM, Emery Rudolph wrote:
> Wow! No, I don't recall ever having anywhere close to 60 floppies. More
> like 20 or so. I seem to remember installing the pre-release version of
> 0.97 on an AST 286 pizza box system. I loved that machine and am so
> amazed at how far systems have come. My home computer is now a 64GB,
> Intel I9-12900k with an AMD 6800 GPU mining ETH. For anyone in IT and
> into computers, it is a wonderful feeling to know that we have played a
> part in progressing the industry. 
> 
> I will say you rightfully listed "Community" as the first item, as that
> is the most enriching part of being in technology and Linux
> specifically, regardless of distro. With regard to ease of use, I would
> question that one. If you are still compiling kernels, there is no way
> that is easier than other more sysadmin friendly distros. I say this
> knowing how many curse words I've uttered over the years when I had to
> chase down a parameter, syntax or typo in a config file (HaHa). With
> that said, I do remember the sense of achievement when I was successful,
> which is something you don't necessarily get with many other distros. 
> 
> I think it also has a lot to do with what you are doing with the OS and
> a desire to keep your skills honed and the pride with being able to
> navigate the internals. There is also a sense of loyalty to the
> community, which is also an awesome thing. 
> 
> Thank you all for taking the time to share your thoughts. Whatever you
> use, may it continue to fill your purpose and bring you joy!
> 
> ----------------
> Very Best Regards,
> 
> Emery Rudolph, MS
> 
> Director
> 
> Division of Information Technology
> 
>       
> 
> erudo...@umd.edu <mailto:erudo...@umd.edu>
> 
> (301) 405-9379
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:41 AM Judah Milgram <milg...@cgpp.com
> <mailto:milg...@cgpp.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     I seem to recall 60-plus floppies, but maybe that's because I installed
>     X and everything else. X on a 486 (60 MHz?) with 8MB RAM... those were
>     the days. It was still faster than the Sun 3/50 X-terminal they gave me
>     when I first got to UMD.
> 
>     Why Slackware?
>     1) active user community
>     2) we know it well
>     3) simplicity itself
>     4) it has everything, either in the distro or on slackbuilds.org
>     <http://slackbuilds.org>
>     5) if it's missing anything, roll your own slackbuild and contribute
>     6) everything is built and installed from the sources - no patched
>     nothin' if it can be helped.
>     7) it really is an easy install
>     8) we hate and fear systemd
>     9) easy package management with slackpkg. Perhaps less automated but we
>     like it that way.
>     10) nostalgia - UMLUG itself originated with a group order for Slack 1.2
>     CDROMs. (Kernel 1.1.59, I think :)
> 
>     I have looked at other distros but none seemed appealing enough to
>     warrant switching. Others might ... it's a matter of taste.
> 
> 
>     On 2/28/22 8:36 AM, Emery Rudolph wrote:
>     > Yep, I had that same large stack of floppies and it was such an
>     > accomplishment to finally arrive at a system that had all of the
>     > components you needed, because so much had to be done from the command
>     > line and understanding how to dig into the internals of Linux to get
>     > everything to compile correctly. Those experiences made us very strong
>     > OS folks, but today everything is so much easier. I haven't had to
>     > compile a kernel for a very long time and my system runs like a top. I
>     > prefer Debian based systems and have been using Linux Mint since
>     it came
>     > out. I tried Redhat and Fedora for a while, but once they were
>     acquired
>     > by Oracle, I knew it was not going to end well for personal users. 
>     >
>     > Like everything else, Mint have their glitches, but I have been very
>     > pleased with it thus far :-)
>     >
>     > ----------------
>     > Very Best Regards,
>     >
>     > Emery Rudolph, MS
>     >
>     > Director
>     >
>     > Division of Information Technology
>     >
>     >       
>     >
>     > erudo...@umd.edu <mailto:erudo...@umd.edu>
>     <mailto:erudo...@umd.edu <mailto:erudo...@umd.edu>>
>     >
>     > (301) 405-9379
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 8:28 AM Peter Teuben <teu...@umd.edu
>     <mailto:teu...@umd.edu>
>     > <mailto:teu...@umd.edu <mailto:teu...@umd.edu>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     I think you have to be nostalgic perhaps. I did indeed learn linux
>     >     on a 15 floppy install from slackware in 94, but I've gone to
>     redhat
>     >     for a while, and now quite a while I've been using kubuntu.
>     All the
>     >     different distro's have good and bad sides.  It's funny again
>     that a
>     >     15 floppy install on an i486 takes not a lot longer than a USB key
>     >     install on a modern i9.
>     >
>     >     On 2/28/22 08:22, Emery Rudolph wrote:
>     >>     Good morning,
>     >>
>     >>     For those who are using Slackware, just wondering if you've
>     >>     considered using other distros? I learned Linux on Slackware in
>     >>     the early-mid 90's and grew quite adept at compiling and
>     >>     troubleshooting the OS, but as distros matured, including package
>     >>     management, I left it behind. Every distro has features that make
>     >>     them attractive to specific use cases, thus I am not throwing
>     >>     shade on anyone for using anything that appeals to them, but
>     >>     rather, I am interested in what features make Slackware an
>     >>     attractive distro in 2022.  
>     >>
>     >>     ----------------
>     >>     Very Best Regards,
>     >>
>     >>     Emery Rudolph, MS
>     >>
>     >>     Director
>     >>
>     >>     Division of Information Technology
>     >>
>     >>     
>     >>
>     >>     erudo...@umd.edu <mailto:erudo...@umd.edu>
>     <mailto:erudo...@umd.edu <mailto:erudo...@umd.edu>>
>     >>
>     >>     (301) 405-9379
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 9:43 PM Ben Stern
>     >>     <bst...@electromagnetic.net
>     <mailto:bst...@electromagnetic.net>
>     <mailto:bst...@electromagnetic.net <mailto:bst...@electromagnetic.net>>>
>     >>     wrote:
>     >>
>     >>         On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 10:23:24AM -0500, Judah Milgram
>     wrote:
>     >>         > If anyone (who cares) didn't notice, Slackware 15.0
>     came out
>     >>         last week.
>     >>
>     >>         At 22:22:22 on 2/2/22.  :-)
>     >>
>     >>         I switched to 15.0 from current and I miss the giddy pace of
>     >>         daily updates.
>     >>         Current has immediately started breaking things, as promised
>     >>         by its nature,
>     >>         and I'm happy with 15.0 but it's an adjustment.  :-)
>     >>
>     >>         Now waiting for SBo to move to 15.0 so I can upgrade all
>     of my
>     >>         SBo packages
>     >>         trivially.
>     >>
>     >>         > If this isn't an occasion for an UMGLUG I don't know what
>     >>         is. Virtual I
>     >>         > suppose.
>     >>
>     >>         A virtual UMGLUG has not been tried.  I am eager to try one.
>     >>
>     >>         Ben
>     >>         --
>     >>         Ben Stern
>     >>         This space intentionally left blank.
>     >>
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