Adriano, any ideas of how to deal with this heavy burden?
On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 9:37 PM, Narendran Thangarajan <
narendran.thangara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the help Luis. I was able to bundle the snapshot (vmdk+vmx). I
> have a README file also bundled with it which has the steps to start the
> desktop agent.
> The size of the zip file is 2.79 GB. I have started the upload to gdrive
> (dropbox provides only 2.5 GB space), I will share the permalink tomorrow
> as soon as the upload is done.
>
> Thanks,
> Narendran.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva
> <luis....@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Not bootable ISOs. We need only bootable VM. Make sense? For instance,
>> download the VM in a bundle zip and run Virtual Player or Virtualbox and
>> run it.
>>
>> Important note: the main goal of this package is to bundle our Desktop
>> Agent. So please, don't remove the developer tools.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>> narendran.thangara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Luis. Apart from the size, the "System Image" tool of Windows
>>> itself is meant for a different purpose. It just takes a backup of the disk
>>> drive, and so its not bootable. But our end-users will need a bootable disk
>>> as an ISO file.
>>> So we need a tool like Remastersys in the Linux world, which is used for
>>> making new distros. I couldn't find any such tool for Windows yet (maybe
>>> due to its proprietary nature).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Narendran.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva <
>>> luis....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, when you create the disk, you can pre-allocate the space, or you
>>>> can ajust it dynamically. For us, the second are the best option.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, you also can compress the VM (vmx and vmdk).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>>>> narendran.thangara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are a couple of problems with the vmdk image created
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. System image creation in Windows 7 doesn't take a bootable
>>>>> image of the system. Just creates a replica of the C: drive in vhd
>>>>> format.
>>>>> 2. Even if its made usable, Its huge in size - 49 GB
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone tried this before? Please suggest a tool for creating
>>>>> bootable snapshots of Windows 7 VMs. The working instance is running on
>>>>> VMWare player now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Narendran.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>>>>> narendran.thangara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I have set that.
>>>>>> Now I am trying to create a System image from the windows machine. I
>>>>>> am using Windows 7's backup feature to create the image. It creates a
>>>>>> system image in vhd format. I am now converting it into vmdk format to
>>>>>> check if it can work with VMWare too. I am using WinImage for this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Narendran.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva <
>>>>>> luis....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In config file, conf/agent.cfg, use_gui = False
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Adriano Marques <
>>>>>>> py.adri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is the option of running agent without using gtk. Make sure
>>>>>>>> you build it so that it always use that option, and gtk won't be a
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>>>>>>>> narendran.thangara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The gtk dependency is pulled in by
>>>>>>>>> SoftwareUpdate.py<https://github.com/umitproject/openmonitor-desktop-agent/blob/master/umit/icm/agent/gui/SoftwareUpdate.py#L20>during
>>>>>>>>> the the check version flow in
>>>>>>>>> aggregator.py<https://github.com/umitproject/openmonitor-desktop-agent/blob/master/umit/icm/agent/rpc/aggregator.py#L505>.
>>>>>>>>> Should we just conditionally drop the gtk dependency only on Windows,
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> which case we need some code changes to be done wherever gtk is
>>>>>>>>> pulled in..
>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, we can ignore this error and go ahead with bundling
>>>>>>>>> since it doesn't affect the functionality of the desktop agent. ie.
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> reports are sent to aggregator and I can see the alert on east1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Narendran.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Adriano Marques <
>>>>>>>>> py.adri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Try to drop the gtk dependency. Trying to get gtk on windows, and
>>>>>>>>>> in a bundle is a huge PAIN.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>>>>>>>>>> narendran.thangara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Adriano and Luis,
>>>>>>>>>>> Based on the stats from
>>>>>>>>>>> wikipedia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> w3schools <http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp>,
>>>>>>>>>>> I feel Windows 7 will be the best choice as it is holds the largest
>>>>>>>>>>> usage
>>>>>>>>>>> share. So I am starting with the Windows 7 VM. Currently I have
>>>>>>>>>>> setup a
>>>>>>>>>>> Win7 VM in VMWare, installed the required dependencies and have the
>>>>>>>>>>> desktop
>>>>>>>>>>> agent working talking to the east1 instance. But I see a couple of
>>>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>>> while running the desktop agent :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * 1. Aggregator failure: [Failure instance: Traceback: <type
>>>>>>>>>>> 'exceptions.ImportError'>: No module named gtk (Happens just once
>>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>> the desktop agent startup)*
>>>>>>>>>>> [ERROR] - 2013-06-06 16:33:04,125 - Aggregator failure:
>>>>>>>>>>> [Failure instance: Traceback: <type 'exceptions.ImportError'>: No
>>>>>>>>>>> module
>>>>>>>>>>> named gtk
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\tcp.py:299:connectionLost
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\web\client.py:206:connectionLost
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\defer.py:380:callback
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\defer.py:488:_startRunCallbacks
>>>>>>>>>>> --- <exception caught here> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Python27\lib\site-packages\twisted\internet\defer.py:575:_runCallbacks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\narendran\Downloads\openmonitor-desktop-agent\openmonitor-desktop-agent\umit\icm\agent\rpc\aggregator.py:505:_handle_check_version_response
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\narendran\Downloads\openmonitor-desktop-agent\openmonitor-desktop-agent\umit\icm\agent\gui\SoftwareUpdate.py:20:<module>
>>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. *Malformed message received. Connection tear down.
>>>>>>>>>>> (Multiple occurrences after the AuthenticatePeer phase)*
>>>>>>>>>>> [WARNING] - 2013-06-06 16:33:05,608 - Malformed message
>>>>>>>>>>> received. Connection tear down. IPv4Address(TCP, u'210.210.41.202',
>>>>>>>>>>> 80)
>>>>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
>>>>>>>>>>> Cache-Control: no-cache
>>>>>>>>>>> Pragma: no-cache
>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
>>>>>>>>>>> Connection: close
>>>>>>>>>>> Content-Length: 713
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Once we solve these two issues, the Windows snapshot VM will be
>>>>>>>>>>> usable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Narendran.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Adriano Marques <
>>>>>>>>>>> py.adri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Great idea Narendran! What windows version are you going to use?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva <
>>>>>>>>>>>> luis....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Narendran,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you get any progress with it? Probably during the bundling
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are several issues that will raise. Please, keep us posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and keep
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion in the loop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Narendran Thangarajan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> narendran.thangara...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I discussed with Luis regarding bundling of desktop agent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that its easier to use for our users. Following are the steps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have identified as the top level activities involved in bundling.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Create a plain Windows VM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Install the required dependencies for OpenMonitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop agent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Get the desktop agent to run on the VM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Prepare a vdx or vdmk file so that end-users can use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it like a snapshot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if you have suggestions around this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Narendran Thangarajan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Luís A. Bastião Silva
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: koplabs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bastiao.org
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>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adriano Monteiro Marques
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/adrianommarques
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/adrianommarques
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> http://about.me/adrianommarques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Luís A. Bastião Silva
>>>>>>> Skype: koplabs
>>>>>>> http://www.bastiao.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Skype: koplabs
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>>
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>> Skype: koplabs
>> http://www.bastiao.org
>>
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