Bonita
It is so interesting to read your post...I have zero background in  
art...though I like to consider myself creative,( I make jewelry, cross stitch, 
 
scrapbook), I "can't" draw or paint.  I was thinking about when it was that  I 
decided that I couldn't draw...and I think it must be about fourth grade or  
so. 
When you think about it, don't you wonder if there is a connection between  the 
"fourth grade slump" and when kids start worrying about what other kids  think 
of them? The debilitating effects of judgement indeed...the students  
beginning their journey into puberty and the cumulative effects of several 
years  of 
formal schooling...  Is this when we have schooled kids out of  creative 
original thought? 
 
When I think of 'flow' I didn't originally made the connection to the  Zone 
of Proximal development...but that makes a lot of sense...the right levels  of 
challenge to keep interest and engagement.  The first connection I made  was 
to the idea of a "runner's high"...pushing past the pain until you reach the  
point where hit that elation...I have always wondered how much motivation  
figures in to achieving flow...a certain amount has to push you through the  
difficult initial points before a certain level of success becomes the  
motivation 
for you to continue.
 
Here is where we as teachers have to share our own experiences...the joy of  
the struggle with our students. And I can see that many of my own students  
really need a LOT of convincing before they will completely buy that idea. As I 
 
start trying to teach more about the nature of understanding, many of my  
younger students are showing progress. Just run around my elementary school  
and 
look at how many third grade student writing samples are suddenly using  the 
word "fervent". :-) Yet, some of my oldest students...fourth and fifth  
graders, are tougher nuts to crack...they have struggled for too long  without 
enough 
success to easily buy in to the concept of struggle as  good. I believe, 
deeply, with all my heart, that these kids are smart  and have so much to 
offer, 
but a few of these kids just tune me out.  They seem to think that intellectual 
engagement is something that isn't for  them. I wonder what those of you with 
middle and high school students are  finding? Are kids responding to your 
initial attempts to teach the dimensions of  understanding? I am not giving 
up...but I am worried that my hour a day as  reading teacher isn't going to be 
enough. I need to spread the "Understanding  Gospel" to my colleagues too, I 
think.
 
What is reassuring to me is the number of stories Ellin writes about  schools 
and students who have so many strikes against them. These kids  persevere.. 
think deeply and are not afraid of the struggle. The trick is...how  do we set 
up that environment when so much in our culture works against it? I  sometimes 
wonder of my own teaching setting, wiht so many well-to-do kids  may be 
disadvantaged in a different way because EVERYTHING comes easy  to them always. 
 
 Ellin gives us suggestions, but not a recipe for doing this. Now the  
challenge...we know what we want for our kids...what do we do tomorrow, next  
week, 
next month to get them where we want them to go? 

Jennifer
In a message dated 5/11/2008 1:47:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Okay,  I'll begin:)

It is in chapter five that I run into the words" the  debilitating influence 
of judgment" and later the words (paraphrased): the  power of discovering the 
capacity of their own minds...

Three big  connections I make to these ideas are the teaching of drawing, the 
book called  "Flow" written by researcher Csikszentmihalyi, and the use of 
art to teach  thinking.







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