At 30 Jan 2002 11:38:37 -0500, John Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Stefan Probst wrote:
> > And since we are already in Vietnamese.... (to round the things up):
> > I am not sure, how e.g. in the introduction to dictionaries or
> > Vietnamese language books, the tonal mark can be printed "alone". One
> > solution might be to combine them with a "space", but at present, this
> > does not work always.
>
>When does it not?  It is the standard Unicode thing to do.

Well, I tried it with:
a) the Vietnamese "tonal marks":
- grave       U+0300  combining class: 230
- hook above  U+0309  combining class: 230
- tilde       U+0303  combining class: 230
- acute       U+0301  combining class: 230
- dot below   U+0323  combining class: 220

b) the Vietnamese "modifier" characters:
- breve       U+0306  combining class: 230
- circumflex  U+0302  combining class: 230
- horn        U+031B  combining class: 216

I tried to combine them with the space character and with some vowels.

The tonal marks went usually quite fine, but the modifier characters did not:
In WinME, they did not work in MSWindows97, OpenOffice641.
In IE5.5 they did not work with the space, and only with the "right 
combination" of vowels and modifiers:
OK: (all vowels a,e,i,o,u) + (any of breve or circumflex)
OK: o + horn, u + horn (which are in fact valid Vietnamese characters)
NOT OK: a + horn, e + horn, i + horn (which actually are not valid 
Vietnamese characters)

Are the described issues a problem of the OS (e.g. rendering engine), 
application (why does IE behave different from Word?), or correct Unicode 
implementation (e.g. that the horn does not combine with a,e,i)?


Best Regards,
Stefan



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