At 01:20 09/07/2002, Asmus Freytag wrote: >OK. Here we go again. There is simply no way that one can >'typographically' ligate standard German without text (!) based control, >since places where ligatures are prohibited depend on the meaning (i.e. >intended content) of the text, in a way that's similar to hyphenation. > >This must not be confused with arbitrary ligation control used in document >studies. Those people need a lot more special features, so that they are >far removed from plain text at any rate. > >The use of ZWNJ was not primarily introduced for the academic audience, >but for all (modern) languages where allowing blanket ligation based on >character pairs is orthographically incorrect.
Well, there's nothing in my proposal that would prevent any such use. The whole point of the proposal is to provide a means to form required ligatures in the presence of ZJW, without interfering with existing general ligation in page layout apps and without having the latter overriding the ZWJ sequences. The ZWNJ sequences work automatically, because they break the ligature forming sequences. I'm well aware of the particular needs of ligation in German, but I don't think using ZWJ/ZWNJ in the text string is a good solution. Are you really expecting German users to type in this way? What are the expectations of German spellchecking, sorting anfd searching in regard to text littered with ZWJ/ZWNJ? It seems to me that what German typesetting needs is a way to link dictionary support to layout features, so that this stuff can be handled automatically. I'm not a programmer, so I can't imagine how difficult this is going to be. John Hudson Tiro Typeworks www.tiro.com Vancouver, BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Language must belong to the Other -- to my linguistic community as a whole -- before it can belong to me, so that the self comes to its unique articulation in a medium which is always at some level indifferent to it. - Terry Eagleton

