On 07/09/2002 03:20:22 AM Asmus Freytag wrote:
[I'm coming late into the discussion; apologies if this ground has already been covered.] >OK. Here we go again. There is simply no way that one can 'typographically' >ligate standard German without text (!) based control... I wonder if language/writing system-dependent control isn't appropriate in the case of German as well as, e.g., Turkish. For instance, in an OT font, have default lookups to form ligatures, and then have rules specific to German, just as one would for Turkish, that do not form liguatures by default. In the case of Turkish, the reason for the default being not to form ligatures has to do with the use of both dotted and dotless i. In the case of German, the reason is different: it's not done by default since it isn't appropriate for it to be done everywhere, and the contexts in which it is appropriate can't realistically be captured in a font. The German support in the font could still include the rlig lookups John has suggested; and an intelligent app might even activate ligatures automatically (like the SHY analogy Asmus mentioned) either by setting an appropriate feature over the appropriate contexts or by inserting ZWJ into strings at rendering time. - Peter --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Constable Non-Roman Script Initiative, SIL International 7500 W. Camp Wisdom Rd., Dallas, TX 75236, USA Tel: +1 972 708 7485 E-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

