On Fri, Jun 12, 2015, Philippe Verdy wrote:
> 2015-06-12 17:02 GMT+02:00 Marcel Schneider :
>>> Would it be possible to have wordprocessing software where one uses
>>> CONTROL APOSTROPHE for U+2019 and CONTROL SHIFT APOSTROPHE for U+02BC
>> CONTROL and CONTROL+SHIFT cannot work on French keyboards where
>> the existing ASCII apostrophe is on the numeric row where there are
>> also ascii controls mapped matching the ASCII open brace that is itself
>> mapped
>> on ALTGR (or CTRL+ALT) in order to generate instead the C0 control.
> In general it is a bad idea to map any printable character or combining
> character or dead key with
> the CTRL or CTRL+SHIFT modifiers associated to any position in the
> alphanumerica part
> of the keyboard: this should remain reserved to map function keys or C0/C1
> controls only,
> that local applications will use to assign them application-specific
> application functions.
Even the Language bar uses the upper row to define shortcuts with Control,
Shift+Control, Shift+Alt to switch between keyboard layouts, which are
prioritized. So to test the shortcuts with Clavier+, I must first remove
shortcuts in the Language bar. Then the way was free to test Mr Overingtonʼs
shortcuts for curly apostrophes (I will send the result just after). When I
deleted the shortcuts in Clavier+ to test your advice, I found no application
shortcuts for Ctrl+4 while the keys 1, 2, 5 and 0 are usually mapped as Word
shortcut with CONTROL, while the heading formatting is with ALT. But indeed
among ASCII controls I found eight on the French keyboard:
//VirtualKey |ScanCd |ISO_# |Ctrl
{VK_ESCAPE /*T01 */ ,0x001b
{VK_CANCEL /*X46 */ ,0x0003
{VK_BACK /*T0E E13*/ ,0x007f
{VK_OEM_6 /*T1A D11*/ ,0x001b
{VK_OEM_1 /*T1B D12*/ ,0x001d
{VK_OEM_5 /*T2B C12*/ ,0x001c
{VK_RETURN /*T1C C13*/ ,'\n'
{VK_OEM_102 /*T56 B00*/ ,0x001c
On the alphanumerical block, there are always the same five, three among them
near the Enter key. The British-American Apostrophe key is exempt of Controls
too. This is probably why Mr Overington wants to use CONTROL and SHIFT+CONTROL
for U+2019 and U+02BC, as custom applications shortcuts. I had once defined a
universal latin layout in the MSKLC, but as there is neither Kana nor chained
dead keys, I allocated some dead keys (among a total of about 25) on CONTROL
positions where I supposed there wouldnʼt be any shortcuts in any application,
as on ù, ^, and even high digits on the upper row. It must be at
http://dispoclavier.monsite-orange.fr, and somebody has been very astonished
because precisely this may become buggy. Even more, this is disabled!
Winwordc.exe did not process these dead keys. Other applications did, as I
remember. But the layout was far too hard to remind, as I filled up double
diacrited at the next free positions in the alphabet. This way I could allocate
1,921 Unicode characters (by editing the KLC source in spreadsheets), but since
I know and use the WDK, I wonʼt make such a layout again. Now Iʼm trying to put
even more characters but with chained dead keys, for double diacrited and for
easy-to-remind compose sequences. For example, you will enter U+01BF LATIN
LETTER WYNN by typing simply COMPOSE, w, y, n, n, or less if not needed to
disambiguate. Same for digraphs and ligatures. The test version I use is now
adapted to type the letter apostrophe U+02BC (Iʼll send after to the List some
news about).
Best regards,
Marcel Schneider
