You know, you're right (as is Beth), and I don't know why I'm arguing the point.  It's something I've been working on: I shouldn't defend a position JUST because it's _my_ position, and yet that's just what I did.

So, yes, it certainly does seem essentially German.  I couldn't say why they chose to write this part in German, or why they chose to transcribe it in Hebrew letters, really.  I assumed Yiddish probably because of the context and the alphabet used, but there's no reason for it not to be German.  Now, the pamphlet originated from Kloizenberg, i.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluj-Napoca which is in Romania, but German was probably enough of a lingua franca (after all, Yiddish developed from it for that reason).  And the text being basically German would explain the aleph-umlaut which was the start of all this, though it doesn't so much need an "explanation": it's interesting enough that it's _there_.  Also interesting that no other umlauted letters were considered distinct enough to be transcribed so (or else they just happened not to show up).  There are probably mildly interesting things (depending on your interests) to be gleaned from studying how the transliterations, how they seemed to use ע for word-final "e" in "die" in some places but א in others, etc.

Anyway, still interesting, I thought.

~mark

On 11/11/18 8:28 PM, Asmus Freytag via Unicode wrote:

I agree with Beth that the text reads like a transcription of a standard German text, not like a transcription of Yiddish, small infidelities in vowel/consonant renderings notwithstanding. These are either because the transcription conventions deliberately make some substitutions (presumably there's no Hebrew letter that would directly match an "ü", so they picked "i") or because the writer, while trying to capture standard German in this instance, is aware of a different orthography. The result, before Beth tweaked it, would resemble a bit a phonetic transcription of someone speaking standard German with a Yiddish accent. The fact that there are no differences in grammar and the phrasing is absolutely natural for written German is what confirms the identification as German, rather than Yiddish text.

Just because Yiddish is closely related to German doesn't mean that you can simply write the former with standard German phonetics and have it match a text in standard German to the point where there's no distinction. I think the sample is long enough and involved enough to give quite decent confidence in discriminating between these two Germanic languages. Grammar, phrasing and word choice are in that sense much better indicators than pure spelling; just as people trying to assume some foreign accent will give themselves away by faithfully maintaining the underlying structure of the language - that even works if the "accent" includes a few selected bits of "foreign" word order or grammar. In those artificial examples, there's rarely the kind of subtle mistake that a true non-native will make.

A./


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