On 1/24/2019 11:14 PM, Tex wrote:
I am surprised at the length of this debate, especially since the
arguments are repetitive…
That said:
Twitter was offered as an example, not the only example just one of
the most ubiquitous. Many messaging apps and other apps would benefit
from italics. The argument is not based on adding italics to twitter.
Most apps today have security protections that filter or translate
problematic characters. If the proposal would cause “normalization”
problems, adding the proposed characters to the filter lists or
substitution lists would not be a big burden.
The biggest burden would be to the apps that would benefit, to add
italicizing and editing capabilities.
The "normalization" is when you import to rich text, you don't want
competing formatting instructions. Getting styled character codes
normalized to styling of character runs is the most difficult, that's
why the abuse of math italics really is abuse in terms of interoperability.
Other schemes, like a VS per code point, also suffer from being
different in philosophy from "standard" rich text approaches. Best would
be as standard extension to all the messaging systems (e.g. a common
markdown language, supported by UI).
A./
tex
*From:*Unicode [mailto:unicode-boun...@unicode.org] *On Behalf Of
*Asmus Freytag via Unicode
*Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:34 PM
*To:* unicode@unicode.org
*Subject:* Re: Encoding italic
On 1/24/2019 9:44 PM, Garth Wallace via Unicode wrote:
But the root problem isn't the kludge, it's the lack of
functionality in these systems: if Twitter etc. simply implemented
some styling on their own, the whole thing would be a moot point.
Essentially, this is trying to add features to Twitter without
waiting for their development team.
Interoperability is not an issue, since in modern computers
copying and pasting styled text between apps works just fine.
Yep, that's what this is: trying to add features to some platforms
that could very simply be added by the respective developers while in
the process causing a normalization issue (of sorts) everywhere else.
A./
