There are a lot of comments about how noisy, leaky, outdated and inefficient 
Detroit Diesels are, and I agree with all of them.  There is another side to 
that coin, however.  I live in a small town in Alaska with a large commercial 
fishing fleet.  Over the past five or ten years a lot of the fishermen have 
re-powered their boats with new John Deere high efficiency diesels.  They have 
had no end of trouble.  When the new engines work they are a marvel.  They're 
quiet and fuel efficient.  They also are absolutely ridiculous in their fuel 
requirements.  An extremely tiny amount of water in the fuel destroys 
sophisticated high pressure injection pumps that require the local mechanic to 
replace them, which results in a $2000-$3000 repair bill.  There are multiple 
boat owners in town that have done this FIVE times.  They have also spent big 
bucks on very sophisticated fuel filtration systems in an effort to try and 
prevent the problem.  Meanwhile,
 the guys who are still running Detroits have NO issues related to our crappy 
fuel for tens of thousands of hours of operation.  They laugh all the way to 
the bank when people criticise their noisy old Detroits.  When the screaming 
Jimmy's do wear out, they are easily rebuilt for very little money and easily 
serviced at the most remote little village.  Something to think about.
 
As someone who recently rebuilt his gas engine rather than convert to diesel I 
also looked at the conversion idea (27 Express Cruiser).  My fantasy was to 
convert to a Cummins 6BTA.  The reality is I didn't have the money to convert 
to diesel but I did have the ability and the budget to rebuild my own gas 
engine myself.  I gained the additional benefit of eliminating most of the 
service/repair calls at the boatyard by learning to do it myself.  It's better 
to have a gas boat you can use than a diesel boat the wife makes you sell 
because of the high loan payments.

John

--- On Tue, 4/14/09, tomdepot <[email protected]> wrote:

From: tomdepot <[email protected]>
Subject: [UnifliteWorld] Re: Diesel Conversion
To: "UnifliteWorld" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 4:01 PM

Ken,

Some of the best (free) information I have come across on the web is
from this guy:

http://www.yachtsurvey.com/engines.htm

He gives a more in depth analysis of the gas v. diesel question.  His
conclusion is that gas is best suited for boats under 36 feet, and
above that diesel starts to make sense.  I think he says that if you
use the hell out of your boat (like a charter fisherman) you could
justify diesels in a smaller boat.  Obviously I ignored his advice.

I am curious about Detriots more than ever now, I haven't been on a
boat powered by any, but I have consistently heard the same things-
noisy, leaky, and not efficient.

Either way you will have fun repowering your boat, but if I had only
planned on owning mine for two years I wouldn't go with the diesels
either.

One possibility I didn't consider for too long is to find a couple of
Cummins from older Dodge trucks and marinize them.  The only reason I
entertained this at all is that I have a Dodge with the Cummins and
its a great engine.  I pull my boat with it.

Good luck,
Tom in Florida




      
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