Ahoy! Capt Perry - Thanks for more input. will do! I'm Also going to again contact Bob Moores (think I spelled his last name correctly, have his name, phone and address in a folder on my Uni), one of Art Nordtvedt's original partners from the beginning of Uniflite. Spoke with Bob last September about my Uni's V-Drive trany system. I'll see if he recalls the internal structure of 1973 31' sedan cruiser's salon hard top. When we spoke he was still quite active, full of info, a pleasure to speak with and even had a couple of similar 31'ers out back of the shop he spoke with me from. It was an honor to chat with him! I'll post on this forum what I encounter. - Cheers!, Art
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Perry Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 5:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [UnifliteWorld] SAG OVER A SLIDER WINDOW IN SALON TOP/BRIDGE FLOOR -1973 31' SPORT SEDAN I do not blame you in not wanting to remove the headliner. Headliner replacement is an art in it's self. We are a full service repair company and we farm out headliner work. Just a thought; contact a fiberglass company or a yacht surveyor that has been in business for a long time. Make sure you tell them you are not looking for a free opium (you get what you pay for) but you want to know how and what you need to repair this problem yourself. You might find that a lot of the job you can do yourself and some of it might be better done by an expert in this type of repair. They might tell you have to drop part of the headliner and they will come back to see what the problem is? One other thought; listen to the professionals that do this type of work for a living and not all the many, many backyard experts that are at your (all) marinas. This project should keep you out of the bars for awhile, HA, HA Capt. Perry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Art Burtis Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [UnifliteWorld] SAG OVER A SLIDER WINDOW IN SALON TOP/BRIDGE FLOOR -1973 31' SPORT SEDAN Thanks Capt Perry. Must be hoz fiberglass curved area (with internal beam maybe?)failure over window; although no vertical or other cracks occurred to salon top. That said; I'm not clear what the structural design is in this area. Also, the verticle port wall of fly bridge that is inches back from this slight downward bow over window is straight... so... it appears that outermost edge of salon top directly over window may have simply sagged due to 37 years of summer sun and other seasonal temperature changes. Anyone know of a way to locate plan copy or knowlegable description of that area's structural design, on a 1973 31' Sport Sedan's salon top? I hate to pull down ceiling liner before I learn what to expect, due to liner's impeccable condition. Reason I mentioned upward camber spring steel in email below - was in hope that by keeping tension on the salon top's edge for a year or two it would re-stress the fiberglass top back into its original straight position. The sag is less than 1/4". These slider windows are close Tolerance inside the tracks, not much sag needed to create a bind. If anyone knows of the design-plan for this area please advise. Thanks, Art Burtis -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Perry Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [UnifliteWorld] SAG OVER A SLIDER WINDOW IN SALON TOP/BRIDGE FLOOR -1973 31' SPORT SEDAN I am not familiar with your boat, but from a general view point of view, if you are having a reverse bow over your window, you have a structural failure someplace. Either you have a horizontal or vertical support that has detracted on that side of the boat. Find these supports or cross members and you will find your problem. I know, easier said than done, but you want to find the problem, not go around the problem, it will only bite you again in the future. Good luck Capt Perry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Art Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:25 PM To: UnifliteWorld Cc: [email protected] Subject: [UnifliteWorld] SAG OVER A SLIDER WINDOW IN SALON TOP/BRIDGE FLOOR -1973 31' SPORT SEDAN 1973 31' Sport Sedan - In 1 of 4 double slider window areas; the front and rear slider window pane set that exists alongside lower pilot seat are severely binding. Reason: As can be clearly seen from outside of boat - over that window area the edge of salon top is sagging in its middle (between salon's front corner post and center post) None of the other 3 slider window areas have a sag in salon top , Our boat is otherwise in perfect condition, we love it and keep it in top condition for cruising SF Bay and Delta - matter of fact four of us are going for Bay cruise today! Any suggestions would be appreciated as to how to stop or hopefully even reverse the salon top sag over the slider window area as described above? I'm disturbed that if sag became too severe it will not only stop slider window use but may eventually place enough pressure on window panes to bow them toward a full-on shatter. Salon top's sag creating a bind on both slider window panes in this window area has notably worsened this winter. Actually front slider pane is already stuck closed now and rear slider section will only difficulty open a couple inches before it completely binds. All of the three other window areas experience no similar salon top sag and therefore all other windows slide easily. My only guess for stopping or hopefully eventually reversing the top's sag is to bolt an approximate 4' long piece of spring steel (like a single leaf off truck springs) onto outside edge of roof directly above window area. The spring camber would face upward to pull on a threaded bolt affixed to boat top that would be upper end pressure bolted to pull (spring assisted) upward in center of sag area. Both ends of the 4' reverse camber spring would rest on plates against the roof. Other suggestions appreciated! - Art Burtis and Linda Janssen - SF Bay Area -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "UnifliteWorld" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/unifliteworld?hl=en. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2687 - Release Date: 02/14/10 02:35:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. 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