All of the windows in our 1895 house are original wood windows, except one.
I love hearing the weights move in the weight pocket, and they look and feel
like part of the old house. A few need one or two new sash cords, and we
intend to make that repair, but in general they are in pretty good shape.
The ones with two intact sash cords all move much more easily than the new
windows with friction based movement systems. The mechanism is smooth and
well-designed.

We are eager to replace the one vinyl clad window in our house with a wooden
one. It's funny, the reason it was replaced was probably because it was
rotted. So they throw in this vinyl window, but never address the reason the
original window rotted-- the window sill is tilted toward the house rather
than away from it, leaving no place for rain water to go. So now our
wainscoting beneath the window is rotting slowly away. So in addition to
replacing the sill and the window we are stuck with the larger cost of
repairing the wainscoting.

The quick fix is not always most cost-effective and might not even address
the actual problem, as in our case.

Brian Choplick


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In a message dated 7/2/02 9:04:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< While I agree with Melani on point 1,  I am not sure about point 2.  If
white were the desired exterior trim color, then it would seem okay that the
windows were so colored.  >>

I'm talking about the INTERIOR appearance, James.  If the interior woodwork
is not painted white, the white windows clash.  Many new homebuyers are
interested in stripping some or all of their interior woodwork, and the
white
vinyl looks terrible with the natural wood.  Even if they want to paint
their
woodwork in a nice color, but not white, the white vinyl can look bad - it
becomes a contrasting and clashing "frame" around the glass.  The only way
to
mask it is to use curtains to cover up the window, but that makes the room
dark.

Anyway, the point is that many buyers buy historic houses because they
appreciate the houses' original details.  The higher the prices, the more
there seems to be buyer appreciation of original details.  So, removing ANY
original details - windows, wood trim, fireplaces, tiles, leaded glass -
tends to decrease the value rather than increasing it.  I would urge all
homebuyers to live in their houses for a while before making major changes,
so that they are certain that their ideas make sense before they have spent
money and made permanent alterations.

Although, naturally, we don't all have the same taste, generally it seems
that alterations to modernize our Victorian housing stock have not stood up
well over time.  Exposed brick walls and the removal of interior walls
looked
modern in the early 70's when a woman named Jennifer Steves "remodeled" many
University City houses.  Mexican tile sometimes replaced Victorian.  Window
sizes were enlarged, or windows were removed.  Today, people looking to buy
those houses often want to replaster over the brick and add walls again to
have separate rooms.  These are classic houses, and the resale market is
best
for them if they continue to be classic.

Back when my husband and I bought our current house, we had lots of ideas
which, over time, we realized would not have been good.  Luckily, by the
time
we had the money to renovate, we had more of an appreciation for the house,
the room flow, the air flow, the light, and all of the other things a new
homebuyer may not know before living in the house.

Melani Lamond
Associate Broker
Urban & Bye, Realtor


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