On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 12:09  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Well, there's already plenty of people in our neighborhood who do just 
> that -
> party loud, dump their trash all over (we're ALWAYS picking up - like 
> daily)
> and I don't see how HD will help that.

Actually, I had nothing to say about the Historic District. I was 
talking about people who naively believe politicians and who believe 
that more Government intervention is the solution to everything.

> As far as being an HD depressing
> property values and I believe from your observation not increasing 
> taxes,
> just look at an HD like Society Hill where they're seeing between 100% 
> to
> 300% increases in their property taxes.  I'm not sure what taxes you're
> speaking of.  I've never heard of a Historic District actually 
> depressing
> property values, rather seems to inflate them.  I believe it's called
> gentrification.

This is the most enlightening comment I've heard from an Anti-HD person 
yet! All of the previous folks that are Anti the Historic District have 
been citing studies and personal experiences with other HDs showing 
just how far prices will be depressed by the creation of a Historic 
District. Your opinion provides a fascinating point of view, not heard 
hear before.

One gets the impression that you believe that people actually find it 
DESIRABLE to live in a Historic District and consequently bid up the 
prices (i.e. gentrification.) This is not a good point of view for 
someone who is against the Historic District.

> Think I'll be going back into lurk mode, as having an opposing opinion 
> seems
> to not be a very good idea.

It seems that would be a good idea as you consider anyone who disagrees 
with you to be attacking you personally. But just remember, without 
differing ideas, no discussion can ever take place. So if you cannot 
tolerate people disagreeing with your point of view, then you are 
correct, it is much "safer" to never state your opinion. However, if 
you believe that your opinion has worth, then why be afraid to state it 
and stand up for it?

Please realize that you are part of a very small minority by the simple 
fact that you are here:
1- According to proponents of the Digital Divide theory, people with 
computers are part of the most affluent portion of society and 
represent only about 10% of the population.
2- The number of people on the "univcity" electronic mailing list is 
fewer than the paid membership of the Spruce Hill Community Association 
-- who is blamed for the very existence of the Historic District 
proposal. (And one of the basic Anti-HD principles is that Spruce Hill 
CA does NOT represent the community. This, despite the fact that it IS 
democratically elected by the members of that community whereas the 
members of this mailing list are there because they want to be.)
3- The number of people on the "univcity" list who actually post 
anything probably represent far less than 10% of the membership of that 
list. This list has very little traffic, a clear sign that it has very 
little participation.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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