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Are we even allowed to talk about that sort of
thing here? Biting and scratching and flame humping, oh
my....
I don't know about anyone else, but my little
old lady sensibilities are *gravely* offended. ;)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:16
AM
Subject: RE: [UC] Say Amen Somebody
Wow, he really put
us in our place, Jonathan Cass. We are "old ladies." I haven't
been this publicaly embarrassed by Ross Bender since the discussion of how in
China, after the war, the first thing they did was kill all the
dogs.
(For the record, I
don't think anybody cares about civility REALLY... people like biting and
scratching and flame humping. We just care about hundreds of new emails
after a week of absence--I should have gone on vacation after the Hack filming
crew was gone--and also about, you know, how some of us have jobs to do at
work and stuff and are afraid of getting fired for, you know, reading email
all day. So it bears repeating: if you have a one liner to say to
somebody, like, "Good one, Ross," or "Bring it on," or "You suck, lady,"
consider sending it to that individual just to cut down on the sheer qty. of
emails in the old inbox. Thank you for your
consideration.)
:o) <----- [happy emoticon
indicates goodwill and no-offense-intended attitude towards fellow listserve
people.]
Elisabeth
For those truly interested in
patterns of electronic discourse, we have recently experienced a sort of net
climax, with the Hack mail reaching frightening proportions, a feverish
pitch, going way over the top, and culminating in disgusting personal
attacks. This is known in the discipline as a "flame hump".
What
happens next is that people nervously turn to what they imagine are the
basic concerns of "the list" -- who can I use to do my hardwood floors,
clean my storm drains, shine my shoes, etc. This tends to be followed by a
"post-flame hump" where the really motivated ones try to get it up again and
try for a second or "multiple" climaxes.
Next, the old ladies (and I
use this term with all due respect, figuratively, and with no disrepect
particularly to Mr. Cass) start gabbing about list netiquette. "WELL I
NEVER. *Such* behavior! I saw something nasty in the woodshed! (BTW if you
can identify this last syndrome I'll give you a free ticket to the 13-hour
performance of Satyagraha to be played out in front of emstern's house --
bonus points if you can identify the composer of Satyagraha, 3 points if you
can name the three figures eulogized in the opera). IF THIS KEEPS UP I'M
GONNA HAFTA CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION! "This is the stage of "meta-discussion",
or "mennopause", which can also occur periodically in minicycles during any
stage of list discourse. In fact some scholars insist that e-discourse
follows with uncanny precision the rhythms of the menstrual
cycle.
Then everybody shuts the bleep up and returns to their
quilting, whatever, until a new wave of hysteria is ready to climax in wan
beeg orgasmic hump.
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org
In a message dated 9/22/2003 5:06:48 PM Eastern
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have noticed that as well. With all due respect, some
of y'all talk too much. Maybe next time you address an email to the
entire listserve, consider if it would be better addressed to a single
individual (especially if you have a personal issue with that
individual). Every time I go away for a couple of days, I have a
hundred and fifty emails in my box, and it's very daunting.
Thanks,
Elisabeth
-----Original
Message-----
From: Jonathan Cass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Monday, September 22, 2003 4:08 PM
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] Tone of Discourse
The
tone of discourse on this list serve has recently taken a
decidedly
nasty turn for the worst. Supposed political
affiliations are being
generalized and impugned, and I have noticed an
increasing trend in personal
attacks.
I would request that
participants try to be more civil.
Jonathan A. Cass
Silverman,
Bernheim &Vogel
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I second this Amen. I cannot fathom why
people actually take the time
to make offensive personal
characterizations of members of the listserve --
and to communicate these
to the entire listserve, AS IF we were all
hungry to read abusive
language directed at our neighbors.
There are lots of real
issues and news to be discussed. Why not focus on
these rather than
seeking to demean and insult other members of our community?
I don't see
how these slurs and unpleasant insinuations get us anywhere.
(And,
speaking just for myself, once I encounter such, I discount
other
communications sent by the persons resorting to such crude ad
hominem attacks.)
I, for one, would like people to send me "Thank
You" notes, because of
all the really _nasty_ stuff I _haven't_
posted.
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org
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