My point is not to increase traffic or promote bad manners.  My point is we
need to be allowed to be ourselves online, we are a community, and sometimes
we need to say what is on our mind to our neighbors.


Richard Hotchkiss
http://www.hotstrings-inc.com



> From: Elliot Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:01:55 -0400
> To: Richard Hotchkiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [UC] [ADMIN] decorum (and more noise)
> 
> While I wouldn't recommend that Jeff, or anybody, volunteer to moderate
> the list, I think that a list owner/sponsor ought to reserve the right
> to warn individual list participants that their posts objectionable
> because of ad hominem attacks, racial slurs, etc. Further he or she
> should reserve the right to remove such a participant from the list, if
> the participant persists in making such objectionable postings.
> 
> I also do not share the sentiment in Richard's line: "So, bring on the
> ethnic slurs and the noise. Delete is a great key.", or Brian's sense
> that we should let the assholes reveal that they are assholes. It is
> one thing to tolerate occasional lapses of decorum, and another to
> encourage it. Remarks like Richard's and Brian's seem to me to
> encourage bad manners, and all sorts of offensive verbal mudslinging.
> Let's not go down the same road as the West Windsor/Paulsboro NJ online
> community.
> 
> Elliot
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, Oct 1, 2003, at 08:33 US/Eastern, Richard Hotchkiss wrote:
> 
>> I agree.  Keep it free and open.  I think we are all intelligent
>> enough that
>> we don't need to be parented. If someone want to say something, they
>> are
>> responsible for what they say.
>> 
>> As to those who say that this is the only list that allows personal
>> attacks
>> etc., I think you need to go to some other community boards and read.
>> I was
>> recently searching for something and ran across the board for West
>> Windsor/Paulsboro NJ.  Those people are just mean and abusive to each
>> other
>> to the point where I was taken back by it (that takes a lot). And this
>> is
>> from an area with expensive houses and top rated schools, but I
>> digress.
>> 
>> So, bring on the ethnic slurs and the noise. Delete is a great key.
>> 
>> Richard Hotchkiss
>> http://www.hotstrings-inc.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: Brian Siano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:30:57 -0400
>>> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [UC] [ADMIN] decorum (and more noise)
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:52:41 EDT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> How do people feel about establishing a rule, "no ethnic, racial,
>>>> religious, gender or sexual orientation slurs, even if the intent is
>>>> irony or parody"?  And/or, maybe something in the direction of, "if I
>>>> wrote this as a letter to the Inquirer, the DP, or The University
>>>> City
>>>> Review, would my language be acceptable for publication?"
>>> 
>>> I'm against it. I'd prefer to know which people are assholes and which
>>> aren't, and telling them to keep it under wraps makes it more
>>> difficult.
>>> 
>>> If people want to risk embarassing themselves with silly postings, I
>>> say,
>>> let them hang themselves.
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