While I bemoan the loss of the cheesestake place and the salad place from the Moravian Cafe, you can't tell me that just because they were not chains, that the food was any less bad for you to eat than the food at a Taco Bell or KFC.

It's all about the (food) choices you make.

My question is: how do they think they can fit both a CVS *and* several food places in that area? It ain't all that big!

gail

Dubin, Elisabeth wrote:

Of course you are allowed to voice your opinion.  But we have an obesity
issue these days, not to mention hypertension and high cholesterol.
Sorry, but since some people out there don't know that this crap is
hardly food at all (given how unhealthy it is) I think the more of these
places there are the more the trickery continues.  It's not FOOD!!!
Just because it's in a restaurant doesn't mean it's food.  (It's people.
Hah hah.)



ELISABETH DUBIN
Hillier ARCHITECTURE
One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 | F
215 636-9989 | hillier.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Myers
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Sad commentary

I understand the importance of eating at local mom and pop stores, and I
frequent them often. But I actually agree that U of P should have some
"fast food" chains that international and national students are
accustomed to. Places like KFC, and Taco Bell may attract the wrong kind of people Penn
wants in their neighborhood, but they are all relatively inexpensive for
a quick meal. Also, you know what you are expecting.


As a side note, I have been asking my Uncle (who owns most of the KFC's
and Taco Bells you are referring to) to put one in University city. He
was having a hard time with Penn wanting only family-based businesses
around. Well, there's a problem with that. Once you force all the low to middle
income families out of the Penn area (because that is exactly what
you'll do with only snobby over priced restaurants), Penntrification
will be here at last! But to the opposite extreme. I think there needs
to be a equal amount (or at least proportionate amount) of all kinds of
restaurants. And the fact is, there is not one KFC, Taco Bell, Burger
King, Wendy's, White Castle, Arthur treacher's, Bob's Big Boys, Denny's,
Arby's, Chik-Filet, Pizza Hut, or other common fast food place you can
normally find anywhere else but in the immediate University City
District. So I actually support some other options that students can go
to.


I am sure to get some emails regarding my opinion. But I am allowed to
voice it even if it doesn't match yours.

Dan Myers
215.901.0899
Certified Massage Practitioner
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"Healing is related to our capacity to experience and embrace life as it
is. Often this means accepting the unacceptable, making peace with
disintegration, and loving whatever we face."
-Rachel Harris, MD


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dubin, Elisabeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark Krull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: [UC] Sad commentary





Who cares about "the element"? If anyone would care, it would be the
university, and clearly they don't have a problem with the idea of
attracting "the element." I'm totally grossed out by the idea of


those


food choices going into the Moravian, and it's not out of snobbery --
KFC and Taco Bell food make me actually nauseous. But more


importantly,


THEY ARE TOTALLY BAD FOR YOU "(especially the KFC) and the university
should realize that students with little time and money will go there


as


the path of least resistance. The leadership owes it to their own
student body to provide healthier options, I mean, it's like setting


up


a liquor store next to an AA clinic. Jeez. I can't get over it. You
would also think the university would try to de-franchise their image


-


I mean, what do they have on Walnut now? A GAP, an Ann Taylor Loft, a
Barnes-and-Noble-student-bookstore, a COSI... The only non-franchised
stuff there is the White Dog and Avril 50. Am I wrong in thinking


that


a college town should have, god forbid, character? I'm going to cut


and


paste this mini-tirade and send it to the DP.

P.S. Let the record show that I agree with Al (!).


ELISABETH DUBIN
Hillier ARCHITECTURE
One South Penn Square, Philadelphia, PA 19107-3502 | T 215 636-9999 |


F


215 636-9989 | hillier.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Krull
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:09 AM
To: Ben; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Sad commentary

It might be that they are not as upscale and might invite the


"element"


Thats my guess

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Apr 19, 2005 8:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] Sad commentary

At 08:01 AM 4/19/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Today's DP has an article about what's going into the commercial space
at 34th & Walnut to replace the Moravian cafe etc. IM(not so)HO, it's
either a sad commentary on the penn Administration for thinking this


is


the way to serve the University and surrounding Communites, or a sad
commentary on the University and surrounding communities for this


being


what they actually want.


I must be sad because I'm happy about the choices of what is moving


in.


While I've never been to Quiznos, I'm happy to see some of the fast


food


I enjoy eating being in the area. The KFC at 45th and market is scary
and the one on Broad & whatever isn't the best. I frequent the T-Bell
on City line which is nice but I'm happy not to have to drive that far
when I'm craving these places. While these aren't places I say I go


to


often, it's nice to have them close.

What is the issue you have with them?

-Ben

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