Re: [UC] RE: West Philly High re recent violence thereKathleen, Both of my parents attended West Phila High when they were high school students, in the early and middle thirties. From what I gather, it was a great place then. In fact, a lot of famous people are graduates from the 30s and 40s. What happened since 1937? Has the decline been gradual? Overnight? I don't know. We moved with the Great Exodus of the mid-fifties. I never went there. sk ----- Original Message ----- From: Turner,Kathleen<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UnivCity listserv<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: RE: [UC] RE: West Philly High re recent violence there
" If I were to return to teaching, I would choose an Indian reservation. You can keep these big city schools. sk" Honestly, every time I see a story on the news about yet another suburban school on lockdown, or shut down for several days because of death threats, hit lists, and crazy students wielding shotguns, I'm grateful that my children are at two of these big city schools. There is a very simple way to stop the current epidemic of fires at WPHS -- ban the news vans from the blovk surrounding the school. At this point, the media attention is driving the student vandalism. That is not to say that there isn't a deeper, wider, problem at WPHS; it was a hellhole when my husband was there 30 years ago and it's a hellhole now, but as long as there's a chance to get on Fox News the students are going to keep lighting fires. Kathleen ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SKnight Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:46 PM To: Wilma de Soto; UnivCity listserv Subject: Re: [UC] RE: West Philly High re recent violence there Wilma, The only instance of violence against a teacher that I recall seeing first-hand while teaching at Camden was done to a teacher who was nasty and talked down to the student. She practically goaded the student to slap her several times. I did not like the way she treated students. When I read of these assaults, I thought back to that incident and wondered how much was the result of behavior that was not as acceptable as one would like on the teachers' part. Nevertheless, it certainly didn't appear that these teachers were in the wrong, but appearances never really tell the story, do they? If I were to return to teaching, I would choose an Indian reservation. You can keep these big city schools. sk ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilma de Soto<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Bill Sanderson<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; UnivCity listserv<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [UC] RE: West Philly High re recent violence there Every child deserves to have a building that is nice and new. Even I deserve to work in a building where I can at least use the restroom and find it reasonably clean and tidy. I was relating what has happened in new building such as my University City story. The prevailing sentiment seems to me "If it's not mine personally, I don't care about it." This goes for books, furniture, walls, lockers any school property or property belonging to others. If you touch MINE however, I'll kill or harm you. To wit, Frank Burd and the proverbial not allowed in school anyway iPod. Mr. Burd (who REALLY didn't have to do so), was going to return after class anyway. Not good enough! They had to "get him". On 3/13/07 12:17 AM, "Bill Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes to number 1, perhaps not to number 2-but in both cases-the need was not driven by the "problems" you refer to, but by the need to renovate or replace the aging building. I haven't heard anyone suggest that the new building will somehow result in model behavior by all the students. Are you suggesting that the students are somehow undeserving of a new building? In any case, none of them will be there when the new building is completed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UC] RE: West Philly High re recent violence there In a message dated 3/12/2007 4:06:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's been that way for a LONG time. Not just at West Philadelphia High either but all over the district. At least you don't have to go inside and spend your day in that sort of environment, be trained and re-trained and re-trained in the name of "School Reform." OR Be held accountable if they don't do well on standardized tests; have to present your credentials to proven "highly qualified" to be in there and try to teach them. OR See no consequences for the students or their parents; just you and/or your administrator. This is how people are treated who WANT to be there and want to teach. We shall see how the public reacts when contract negotiations start soon; as the district tries to pare down even more of our rights and heap more responsibility on us. Does anybody think that all the time spent on the "forum" to pretend Community Input drove the plans to build a new facility for West Philadelphia High has had any positive impact? Does anybody think that a new building will solve any or all of the problems? (I don't, and can point to what's happened at the new campus-like Atlantic City High School to back up this belief. It's as bad there as it was in the old high school building. Always at your service and ready for a dialog ® brand resident and housing provider, Al Krigman -------------------------------------------------------------------------- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339><http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> .
