Dear Karen, Since you are quoting me several times, let me explain further without getting tired of this thread.
In any argument, there are at least 2 sides of a story. Even if the stories basically match, there will usually be a disagreement (why it's turned into an argument and then usually violent) that caused such an intervention. Considering where the event took place, one only can assume the argument started there (and why a student would be violent toward a teacher or principal and not their own parents). From what I gathered about the story displayed in the media and the one here on this list serv, the 2 sides come from the child and the teacher, not the parents. Although I do agree that the upbringing is strongly to blame. Since you so conveniently left out my first sentence-- which stated "I personally blame the parents for this.", I assume that you are also responsible. I am to blame too, I am not involved in my community more, nor am I a school teacher, and I have no children to even speak of! However, the teachers should be more responsible (forget blame for now). They teach our children-- not only math and science and art, but also they mold personalities by the way they teach and how they speak to the kids. Children spend most of their lives in school, not at home. I know teachers aren't glorified baby-sitters, but I disagree that teachers don't "raise" the children. How can you not? Are you not teaching them anything? Teachers need to recognize when students are not behaving in a way that lets other kids learn. They should also recognize when students are in an argument and to not let it control the child or themselves. The "leave no child behind" was a good thing our politicians did! Personally, when asked who is my "hero" growing up, I would have told you one of my teachers (his name is Mr. McDonnell) because he believed in me even though I wasn't a grade "A" student. He took the time to understand each of his students and it was a truly a joy to go to his class. Teachers need to be set as role models, not baby-sitters, not punching bags, and certainly not completely accountable for a child's' actions. (but certainly somewhat responsible) I'm sorry you don't agree with me, Karen, and I do not want to get violent with you (considering the tone of your voice implies that you do). Hope we can all still get along, Dan Myers On 3/14/07, KAREN ALLEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 3/14/07, Wilma de Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I knew someone would intimate that subliminally teachers are to blame >>for what is happening to them. >From: "Dan Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [UC] RE: West Philly High re recent violence there >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:56:18 -0400 > >Yes, it is everyone's duty to make sure violence is handled with caution >and eliminated. However, upbringing, the teachers behavior, and the childs' >behavior are ALL to blame. There are many steps in >controlling these types of situations. Obviously, someone stepped in >doodoo. > >Dan Myers > I love the way that it's now presumed that the teachers' behavior was a contributing factor in the out-of-control kids behaving as they do. And I love the way it's implied that it's the teachers who "stepped in doodoo". Let's shift the blame from permissive, non-responsive or AWOL parents to teachers whose job is to teach, not to raise these kids. That's why things are as bad as they are now: The Blame Game. Karen Allen ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
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