I had my house/car insurance rep. tell me that my car insurance was high
because I lived in Center City (the insurer is based in Norristown or
there abouts, so they can't claim to *not* know the area here). I was
flabbergasted and told her so: "how is land west of the schuykill
Center City?" "well, according to our maps, it is." "Oh really? Well,
all those snobs in Rittenhouse Square are gonna be pissed when they hear
that west philly is really center city!"
Go figure!
gail
Frank wrote:
What will we call G-Ho now that Graduate Hospital is gone??
If 13th & Ellsworth is in CC, then I can claim I live on the Moon. I
lived on Clarion St., south of Federal for years. It's ridiculous.
I have to say I like Mid City Village much better than the heinous
"Gayborhood," even if it's kinda bland.
Frank
On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:55 PM, Elizabeth F Campion wrote:
I just spent 3 weeks showing a Buyer the best values in UC only to have
her buy a place near 13th and Ellsworth.
She got a great property.
She'll live in one unit, paying less than her current rent, for a
better
space, and tenants will help pay her mortgage.
The best part (other than the commission) is her absolute certainty
that
her 'South of Washington' location is "In Center City".
Hey, what do I know.
When I started in Real Estate, quality folk choosing east of the
Schuylkill wouldn't be seen South of Pine or North of Walnut while in
West Philadelphia it was the homes from 44th through 49th SOUTH of
Baltimore that were most desirable.
Now folks will live just about anywhere.
If you drive down Gray's Ferry, from 23rd & Bainbridge, and make a
right
on Christian new signage on a tidy cafe herald's "Devil's Pocket",
as if
it was always a cool place to be.
BTW: So-So is the rejected name for South of South.
Best!
Liz
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:36:56 -0400 "KAREN ALLEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
The description of "Southwest Center City" is too broad. It defines
it as
Lombard to Oregon, Broad St to the Schuylkill River, which is wrong.
The
southern boundary is Washington Avenue. It's what most people think
of as
where Center City ends and South Philadelphia begins.
Otherwise the definition's including Point Breeze (south of
Washington, east
of 25th) and Grays Ferry (roughly south and west of 27th and Federal
as it
merges with Grays Ferry Avenue, and scene of infamous racial battles
of the
1960's and 70's)
From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: B Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] New Marketing Campaign
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 16:15:42 -0400
Not really. The descriptions on that page are pretty vague.
"Schuylkill
River west to the city limits, below Baltimore Avenue." would be
fine if
Baltimore Ave. intersected with the river somewhere but it
doesn't. It's
true for most of Baltimore Ave. but not all of it. Using that
description,
what happens below 38th St./University Ave.?
Other examples are "Stonehouse Lane: South of 5th and Ritner
Streets." or
"Uberville: Vicinity of Ridge Avenue, near Oxford Street" or "West
End:
Vicinity of 61st Street and Larchwood Avenue." They are not only
inexact
but all contained within other neighborhoods.
Frank
On Apr 2, 2007, at 03:55 PM, B Andersen wrote:
It still disagrees with
http://www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/otherinfo/
pname3.htm
On 4/2/07, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Enough speculation and unreliable Wackypedia {{NPOV}} entries.
A great PDF from Philadelphia City Planning Commission "The
Political and
Community Service Boundaries of Philadelphia":
http://www.philaplanning.org/data/boundaries.pdf
The PDF includes a map showing Baltimore Ave as the boundary
between W
and SW Philadelphia, *only* above 50th St. The eastern end of the
dividing line is at Grays Ferry Ave. and the river. Then it
zigzags NW to
50th & Baltimore and follows Baltimore to Cobbs Creek. The
streets aren't
all marked but page 36 (PDF page 42) has the clearest map, I
think.
PCPC maps page, not as useful but interesting:
http://www.philaplanning.org/data/datamaps.html
Frank
On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/2/2007 9:44:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, I've been worrying about this Southwest/West Philly
business
for some time. What are the "actual" boundaries, and according
to whom?
You seem to imply that SOBA is Southwest Philly -- if the 34
trolley
line really does bifurcate the two. Does that mean that Woodland
Cemetery and Clark Park are actually in SW? Seems
counterintuitive,
dude. Got maps?
In a message dated 4/2/2007 11:21:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is discordance among the wikipedia articles ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwest_Philadelphia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Philadelphia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_City%2C_Philadelphia%
2C_Pennsylvania
The definitions say south of Balitomore ... the maps show the
Schuylkill
... I always heard it was Woodland.
The City Planning Commission, long ago, declared it SOBA http://
www.phila.gov/phils/Docs/otherinfo/pname3.htm . Or, call City
planning
to confirm.
Of course a SW Philadelphia in "University City" didn't and still
doesn't sit well with some of the merchandisers of real estate,
who
needed to disassociate the immediate off-campus SW areas from
the
Kingsessing area of SW, which rapidly deteriorated due to some
particularly poor FHA mortgage underwriting standards implemented
in the
mid 1950's, more so than anything having to do with the race of
the then
new buyers. (During the current sub-prime mortgage shake-out,
we'll get
to see a lot of middle class white folk get smoked by
misunderstanding
the implications of their interest-only and/or negative
amortizing
mortgages.)
Enjoy your stay in SW, and while you are here maybe you too can
help to
stem the tide of local violence, instill a practical sense of
social
justice, and make SW Philly a better place for all of its
residents to
live work and learn; the same things decent people everywhere
desire.
Ciao,
Craig
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