"The logical flaw underlying most of these "anti-marketing" posts is to 
assume that if a name is used in some entity's marketing, therefore that

name is *only* marketing."

Hey Tony...(your above statement)

I think you are missing the entire boat here. There is no
"anti-marketing"
campaign or assumptions about marketing in general..your going too far
in the wrong direction with this stuff. (are you doing it on purpose
just to confuse the hell out of everyone?)

I find many residents of our community just have no historical
perspective.
The link to the Penn Gazette article at the very least gives you
time-lines
and transparency of the plot to market this community as a university
ghetto.

The real debate is about neighborhood names breaking free of being
labeled
as "University" owned.

I hope you all enjoy the article.

S

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Subject: [UC] New voice in the anti-gentrification movement

The logical flaw underlying most of these "anti-marketing" posts is to 
assume that if a name is used in some entity's marketing, therefore that

name is *only* marketing.  It's like saying, because the Philadelphia 
Phillies use the name "Philadelphia" in their marketing, therefore 
"Philadelphia" is a marketing tool. Or, because "The Green Line" is used
by 
a café, that means the name has "become a brand". This is true but, in
the 
context of our discussion, only in a trivial and misleading way.

As earlier posters pointed out, *all* urban names begin as marketing.
All 
cities are built, then marketed and sold. Most name changes, which are
also 
built into city life, represent somebody's effort to repackage an area.
So 
the discovery of Marketing in urban real estate names is a duh!
discovery 
that really tells us nothing.

More importantly for political purposes is whether a name catches on
with 
the public. In order words ... did the marketing work? If it did, then
it 
must have met a popular need. If it didn't ... where are the Edselvilles
of 
yesteryear?

As of 2006, "University City" is obviously being used by the public.
There 
is good evidence, in fact, that the information-seeking public (as
opposed 
to the sticker-printing public) prefers it to "West Philadelphia" as a 
community name.

The June 2006 Verizon White Pages lists 23 separate entities that use
the 
phrase "West Philadelphia" as part of their names. But only 6 of them
are 
within the generally accepted boundaries of University City (say, Spring

Garden to 42nd to Market to 52nd to the EPTA tracks to the Schuylkill).

The same edition lists 15 separate entities that use the phrase
"University 
City" as part of their names. Of these, 14 actually lie within our 
community.

Regardless of its origin, then, University City exists and is well known

today. There is no law against anybody's using it in their marketing.

-- Tony West

Wilma wrote:
>I believe the name University City was first bandied about in the early

>70's
> and not the 60's. Also Powelton Village and Sansom Village (remember 
> that?).
> It helps to have grown up here.
>
> University City has become a brand now promoted by the UCD.  This is
true.


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