Anthony West wrote:
In all fairness, to distinguish UCD from us implies that UCD is not a part of us. If by "us" you mean "readers of this listserve," then a few days ago you noted some UCD workers are part of us. Surely that's not what you're wishing to say now, though.

So define an "us" that is not UCD, that UCD can respond to, especially if that "us" assumes some financial responsibility for UCD.

I can think of possible "usses", but I won't name them, no matter how theoretically, because I don't want the heat. That's why I invited you to do the initial round of naming, Ray.

If no one steps forward to define such an "us" for us, then, sadly, I don't see how it can ever proceed to Points 2, 3 ... x. Who will bell the cat? as the old fable goes. In that case, this attractive inquiry would be better set aside, I fear.



earlier today, sharrieff stepped forward and offered one definition of 'us':

UCD management is accountable to it's Board of Directors.
UCD management by mission is accountable in part to those it services through geographic boundaries, it's relationships of support (which would include ALL the local politicians), and individuals who donate money to supplement the on-going institutional support. UCD management is accountable in part to the State of Pennsylvania based on it's 501-C3 status. If sustained funding were to happen through a local assessment, then, in that case the UCD management would be accountable to the public interest based on that assessment and still would be accountable to a Board of Directors representative of that interest.


anyone care to take it from there?

and let's calm down about taking the heat. this is an open conversation, remember, not an argument.



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