Boundaries would come into play if there was "consistent" service to an area which is not subsidized or advertised.
Any supervisor, in order to do his or her job effectively needs to use their own "reasonable" judgment on a day-to-day basis. If the local Councilperson asked John Fenton if a crew he was managing could help set up the Malcolm X Park for a community fair, personally, I think it would be reasonable. At the point he arrived and it looked to be more than expected?.. it was probably easier to get it done and move on rather to turn around and leave Jannie Blackwell "hanging". Malcolm X Park and Councilwoman Jannie Blackwell are community partners of UCD, Penn, and many of the board institutions. At least that is how it is stated and portrayed at the Penn First Thursday meetings. Penn has used multiple resources to improve the conditions at the park and many Penn employees live directly around the park. I think it would be particularly hypocritical of the UCD Board (who is controlling the outcome) to suddenly disassociate themselves. So.. making a boundary argument?, I believe does not hold up to scrutiny. S -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 1:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UC] Tom Fenton on ABC News This is another example of an area with specific boundaries that you have decided don't exist because you don't want them to exist. You've even decided that your opinion is that of "most" people in the neighborhood and you imply that those who disagree are insane. The arrogance I see in this post is incredible to me. Is your dislike for Ray so strong that you have to resort to this? Must you respond to his every sentence with the opposite opinion? Why respond at all? Which brings me to your earlier question about how some online communities deal with trolls. We have ignored them. It works. So does creating a moderated environment but, given the nature of this list, I don't think it is appropriate here. I'm sure we would have some disagreements about what constitutes a troll. As far as the John Fenton/UCD controversy is concerned, dismissing it by saying that's the way Philly politics works just doesn't wash with me. People make conscious decisions about whether or not to participate in this kind of logrolling. In my opinion, people should just fess up and take their lumps. If they think it's for the greater good, then they can make their case and see what happens. And remember, this might not be an isolated incident, just the only one we've heard about. Frank On May 24, 2007, at 10:33 PM, Anthony West wrote: > As a park activist, I'd have to say this argument is thin. If you > serve a community of residents within certain boundaries, but one > of their dedicated facilities lies one block beyond those > boundaries, a wise and responsible community organization will seek > to extend them some coverage. It's meaningless that some > neighborhood service lies one block outside some boundary. Suppose > the West Philadelphia Y requested some assistance from UCD -- would > that bother you? I'm asking for the opinion of every neighbor on > this list as well as yours. > > I personally know readers of UC-list who are also Friends of > Malcolm X Park. How many readers have been quietly thinking Greg > Cojulun is doing a lousy job, over at Malcolm X Park? By contrast, > how many readers have noticed how much better Malcolm X Park has > been looking, compared to 1997? If you belong to the latter group > (aka the not-insane group) > > Facilitating Malcolm X Park activities in general is one of the > best things either UCD or any of its haughty rivals could do. I'm > totally for that. It makes sense to most people who are comfortable > living in this neighborhood. If any of you are uncomfortable with > Malcolm X Park, call me and talk to me. Yes, it is very much part > of our neighborhood and a very safe and well-maintained space, I > might add. > > -- Tony West > > > Ray wrote: >> ucd states on their website precisely where their >> boundaries are, and that's where everyone funding ucd >> expects them to be servicing. and that's where ucd claims all its >> credit, it's where ucd draws its statistics to write up its report >> cards, etc. >> >> this incident involved taking workers away from servicing an area >> within the ucd boundaries to an area outside the ucd boundaries. >> workers that included ucd staff as well as 2 penn students. > > > ---- > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
