What Karen posted is correct as far as I know and was used as a
mechanism for the UCD and "specific interest" to eliminate particular
organizations 
or individuals from participating in the UCD Board activities.

Essentially, if the UCD didn't want you there it wouldn't matter if your
community association put your name forward. It was unlikely out of 3
names
the Board wouldn't find someone of their philosophy.

Q: Why did the community stakeholders allow UCD to propose something so
   undermining to our interest?

The UCD operations and Board activities are anti-trust, violate the
standards of ethical behavior, and are not worthy of community support.


S

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:03 PM
To: KAREN ALLEN; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UC] The UCD Board and community reps

Thank you very much.  That was a very interesting account. Let me make
sure 
I get it right..Was it the Board choosing the three candidates and not
the 
full membership?

Then afterwards, UCD, chose which of the three choices would actually
serve.

Does anyone know, was the process Karen described for  CPN the same as
the 
other civic associations had?  Send three Board choices for UCD to
choose?

Thanks Karen, this is important information.

Glenn


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "KAREN ALLEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: [UC] The UCD Board and community reps


> >From: "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Subject: [UC] The UCD Board and community reps
>>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 07:44:12 -0400
>
>>Has anyone anything else to add about the civic associations' 
>>representative choosing process?
>
> YES!
>
> As you all probably know, I'm Treasurer of Cedar Park Neighbors, and
have 
> been so since 1996. I cannot speak as to the procedure by which our 
> current UCD representative, Dorothy Berlind, was seated, or when her
term 
> is due to expire, because I honestly have no recollection or
knowledge.  I 
> can, however, speak to historical events that occurred back in 2000
and 
> 2001.  I am not saying that the process is still being used because, 
> again, I honestly do not know.
>
> In 2000-2001, the University City Community Council was very active.
UCCC 
> is a coalition of community associations and special interest groups.
I 
> along with Mike Hardy and Melani worked on writing the bylaws when the

> group formed around 1997.  By 2000, the members were Powelton Village,

> Cedar Park, Garden Court, Walnut Hill, Squirrell Hill, and Spruce
Hill, 
> along with groups like UC Historical Society, UC Pride, and Friends of

> Clark Park.  Spruce Hill resigned from the group because of the 
> controversy over what was to become the Penn-Alexander School
catchment 
> area.
>
> During 2000-2001, there was a major controversey between UCCC and UCD 
> because UCD insisted that each community association send the names of

> three people as "nominees" to the UCD Board, and UCD would then
"select" 
> which of the three would represent that association.  The
then-President 
> of Squirrell Hill was one of the vocal members of the UCCC, and he was

> adamant, as was I and others, that UCD was not going to select who was

> going to represent the community associations.
>
> When it came time for CPN to decide, I and another CPN Board member
who 
> was active in UCCC insisted to the CPN Board that we should not send 
> three, and have UCD select our representative, but instead send only
the 
> representative that we wanted.  I was out-voted because the opinion
was 
> put forth that it was "better to have a seat at the table" and three 
> nominees was then requested.  I and my co-militant nominated each
other as 
> two of the nominees, but were out-voted.
>
> Again, this is what I know about the original UCD community rep
selection 
> process. Whether that is still the case today I don't know.  But I
will go 
> on record as saying that that was what was done in 2000-2001.
>
> Karen Allen
>
>
>>From: "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Subject: [UC] The UCD Board and community reps
>>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 07:44:12 -0400
>>
>>Folks, something else came out yesterday that is very indicative of
the 
>>underlying problem with UCD. The Councilwoman told everyone that her
staff 
>>member, Marty, was removed from the UCD Board. Later, Glenn Bryan,
with 
>>whom she has worked, was also either removed or not permitted on the 
>>Board.
>>
>>We don't know anything about how Penn real estate and its corporate 
>>partners choose this body and they can change it at will.
>>
>>Mr. Lewis Wendell, at one point yesterday, asserted that all the civic

>>associations have Board members on the UCD Board. A civic association 
>>leader leaned over to me and gave me a little hearsay.
>>
>>She suggested that the UCD picked or suggested the civic association 
>>representatives and not some internal voting process after some
discussion 
>>by the members.
>>
>>Has anyone anything else to add about the civic associations' 
>>representative choosing process? Are their people in the associations
that 
>>have UCD Board representatives that can confirm or deny if there were 
>>appropriate discussions to choose your representatives? Did you find
out 
>>that you had a Board representative but had not heard of any process
for 
>>choosing? Can anyone describe an internal choosing process?
>>
>>I know that with all of the UCD initiatives, it is a very strict UCD 
>>policy that UCD handpicks the "community" representatives and may
close 
>>out all stakeholders suspected of not rubber stamping the planned
agenda. 
>>So although I haven't been on the Board of any of the civic
associations 
>>except FOCP, the brief story from the civic association leader sounds 
>>believable to me.
>>
>>In one of their first initiatives, the revitalization of Clark Park, I

>>experienced this closing out of stakeholders as I was repeatedly
barred 
>>from the steering committee. At the time, I was leader of one of the 
>>largest organized stakeholder groups in the park. Park groups were 
>>generally uninvited or barred from the steering committee.
>>
>>If anyone can add to the understanding of choosing UCD "community
reps," 
>>thank you.
>>
>>Cedar Park, Spruce Hill Civic Association, Powelton Village, Garden
Court 
>>and Walnut Hill have a representative listed on the UCD web site. Can 
>>anyone from SHCA, for example, talk about the discussions to send
Barry. 
>>Did anyone run against him?  What was the vote count? When was the
vote?
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>
>>Glenn
>
>
>
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