You know, Glenn

MAYBE he did NOT because he works with and trusts the judgment of those who
would make the area over in his view.

Someone else suggested that those of us who wanted the area improved should
get the backing of those with deep pockets.

That is ³ex-AC-tly,² what we thought we were doing when our folks were
dealing with Penn, and the leading ³Community Associations² as long-time
residents  

The community associations engaged those persons of color  because trusted
and helped them go to where THEY felt uncomfortable going.  Those residents
had respect and long-term history and credibility.

They finally saw their ship. come in


On 6/8/07 8:32 AM, "Glenn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Look at what West suggests:
>  
> "But to bash it for steps it was virtually compelled to take ... that strikes
> me as unfair and stupid."
>  
> He is asserting according to this wanker "manual" that he made up, that UCD
> was "compelled" to immediately fire John Fenton and lock him out.  West, did
> the manual require UCD to lie about a 2 week suspension?  Does the wanker
> "manual" demand that they immediately impose a gag order on Mr. Fenton and bar
> him from talking to his former employees or anyone else?
>  
> Here we go again with straw man:
>  
> "If you think it could have easily have done differently, cite a case in your
> experience where an employer, faced with a similarly explosive employee
> investigation, handled it better in your opinion. If you have no real-world
> knowledge how an agency has handled this differently, just say so. The time
> for bluster and baloney is over. Don't fake knowledge when a real man's
> livelihood is at stake.
>  
> -- Tony West"
>  
> This "fake knowledge," "bluster and baloney," and "when a real man's
> livelihood is at stake" is just Wanker West's usual technique.  Wanker now
> knows that Mr. Fenton was fired long ago and these accusations are both mean
> and absurd. 
>  
>  Look at what he quotes from me to support this attack.  Melani loves this
> kind of crap so I guess we will get one of those "thank you Tony" posts.
>  
> Wank away dude!
>>  
>> posts----- Original Message -----
>>  
>> From:  Anthony  West <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  
>> To: [email protected]
>>  
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:03  PM
>>  
>> Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> That's right. That's normal. And that's  standard.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Which is not to say I like it. But that's  standard operating procedure for
>> management dismissals and suspension in  corporate America these days.
>> There's something close to a manual for it. The  manager who doesn't follow
>> the manual can be accused of malfeasance,  as can his employer. This is not a
>> manual I would ever have written; but there  it is.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> It's one thing to bash UCD for things it might  have done differently. But to
>> bash it for steps it was virtually compelled to  take ... that strikes me as
>> unfair and stupid.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> If you think it could have easily have done  differently, cite a case in your
>> experience where an employer, faced with a  similarly explosive employee
>> investigation, handled it better in your opinion.  If you have no real-world
>> knowledge how an agency has handled this  differently, just say so. The time
>> for bluster and baloney is over. Don't fake  knowledge when a real man's
>> livelihood is at stake.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> -- Tony West
>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Melani is trying to assert that those of  us whom have been critical of UCD
>>> caused the harm to John Fenton while  UCD is blameless.  Folks, the reports
>>> we heard today suggest  that John was barred almost immediately.
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
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