Stern,

Officer Davis is the Community Affairs Officer for the 18th district.  I forget 
his first name.  But I have identified him so that anyone can easily verify 
that no car jacking happened.  Don't you think it may have been better to 
verify the information yourself before you accuse me of bad intentions?

I described how I went two separate times to the police today.  I got the same 
information from a senior officer, Officer Davis, as I received from the 
receptionist officer.  I reported to the list how I asked Officer Davis if 
their was any way this could have been an error.  

:
 "as there is ample evidence that Glenn seeks to defame Tony's reputation".
and
"Glenn leaves himself open to charges of further indulgence in ad hominem 
attacks, and possible charges of libel"

You know Stern, I'm getting tired of being civil when someone posts crap like 
this.  I described exactly how I discovered that the car jacking did not occur. 
 If the police made some crazy mistake, I would be held blameless for the way I 
reported what happened.  Hey when that happens, I'll admit any mistake I would 
have made. 

 Unlike your pal, my reputation for honesty is pretty well established while I 
was continuously attacked with bullshit like yours by the cheeseheads. 

You accuse me of seeking to defame West.  Why because I've been lied about and 
bullied so many times before by West and cronies?  Because I clearly exposed 
other lies like the famous 17 public meetings of FOCP.

Yo Stern, what if I'm correct?  You acknowledge "no idea" either way, yet you 
want to accuse me of bad intentions for exposing a serious lie.  And you offer 
no comment about what this means if I am correct as I have been before.  You 
readily attack my character yet you were too damn stupid to even call the 
district and the officer I clearly identified!  

What if it turns out that I was doing an important community service by looking 
into this lie while dealing with mean stupid posts like yours.

Forget about the badge number and stop making a raving ad hominem slinging 
idiot out of yourself on the list.  

I expect an apology Stern.  You should be ashamed of yourself.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Elliot M. Stern 
  To: University City List 
  Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [UC] CONFIRMATION OF FALSE CRIME REPORT


  We all should note that Glenn has not identified Officer Davis by full name, 
and he has not stated Officer Davis by badge number. He has further jumped to 
various conclusions about Tony West's motives for reporting the alleged 
incidents. I have no idea whether any such incident occurred or not, but I 
would venture say that Glenn leaves himself open to charges of further 
indulgence in ad hominem attacks, and possible charges of libel, if the 
incident is in the end documented, as there is ample evidence that Glenn seeks 
to defame Tony's reputation.


  E


  On 03 Aug  2007, at 4:06 PM, Glenn wrote:


    Dear list,

    Please feel free to forward this message to your friends and neighbors.  
I'm ccing this to FOCP representatives as well.

    I just returned from meeting with 18th District Police Community Affairs 
Officer Davis. I can now confirm that Mr. Tony West’s report of a car jacking 
at 44th and Larchwood never happened..

    When Officer Davis told me again that there was no record of any such 
crime, I asked him if I could report with certainty. Officer Davis read the 
post by Mr. West. Yes, there is no chance that it would not be in their 
computer records. There is no chance that the police were called to a car 
jacking at 44th and Larchwood.

    The 18th District headquarters is located at 55th and Pine.

    Mr. Tony West has manufactured a false crime report. He falsely claimed 
that there are 2 black male car jackers at large, and one of them is willing to 
brandish a gun. He falsely accused the police of serious mishandling of this 
manufactured crime.

    He intentionally tried to frighten many of our neighbors. And he risked 
serious side effects even catastrophe had he been taken seriously. If I were 
any African American or black person in this neighborhood, I would be outraged. 
I’m outraged anyway!

    Also, I received an anonymous e-mail claiming this car jacking did in fact 
happen. It is an unknown unsigned aol e-mail. I will forward. 

    I don’t know what more to say at this time.

    Sincerely,

    Glenn Moyer





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  United States of America

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