"But I am not sure I understand what you are saying is Penn's fault?  That they 
created an excellent K-8 public school that makes it easier for their staff and 
faculty to live in the neighborhood if they have kids?...  

I don't believe that you can ask Penn to try to solve the problems of a public 
school system that is tremendously flawed by dramatically changing the way they 
run their one little site."


Guy,

Thanks for clearing up the topic for me.  I was very confused.

But why do you say I hate good children?  Is it because I prefer honesty to 
deception?  Or is it because I'm not ruthless?

After you answer, I'd be happy to continue a discussion.


Glenn


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  Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [UC] PW article, catchment and real estate


  Glen,  

  It is certainly a shame that public education leaves so many unprepared for 
the real world.

  But I am not sure I understand what you are saying is Penn's fault?  That 
they created an excellent K-8 public school that makes it easier for their 
staff and faculty to live in the neighborhood if they have kids?  

  Phila public education is not a "zero sum game" where there's only so many 
quality teachers and quality students that if they all congregate at 43rd and 
Spruce at Sadie Alexander that there won't be enough left for the other 
schools.  

  In addition, Penn doesn't have an obligation to change the course of Phila 
public education.  They do have a need to make the surrounding area as livable, 
safe, and attractive that they won't have a need to build a fortress around the 
campus.  Yes, since they are creating an excellent public school they could try 
to solve more of Philly's public education problem while they are at it, but I 
don't really fault them for stopping where they do.  There are plenty of 
neighborhood kids getting an excellent education at Sadie Alexander presently.  
Why fault Penn for not changing the dynamic of public education in all of West 
Philly and SW Philly?  Isn't that too much to ask?

  I guess I don't see a negative to creating this wonderful educational 
opportunity.  The fact that it also raises real estate values is not a 
nefarious plot by Penn, it's the realities of a market driven society.  The 
alternative is to have no school.  I don't believe that you can ask Penn to try 
to solve the problems of a public school system that is tremendously flawed by 
dramatically changing the way they run their one little site.

  Guy




  -----Original Message-----
  From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Sun, 25 May 2008 7:34 am
  Subject: [UC] PW article, catchment and real estate


  Philadelphia Weekly has a short interesting article (a snapshot) about the 
confluence of education, real estate and gentrification issues here in our 
upscale village.


  http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/articles/17058/news

  In this short piece, it corroborates a point that was widely discussed here.  
The description captures how the Penn catchment area was drawn around the 
potential real estate value of housing stock.  The lines aren't drawn logically 
around neighborhoods or existing residents, but instead are obviously based on 
real estate value projections.

  I hope Philadelphia readers consider what happens to public education under 
the model!  As long as elite schools and catchment rules are carved out for 
elite neighborhoods, do we really need to dedicate any resources to the kids of 
the "prostitues, gang members, and drug addicts" who have been pushed to the 
poor schools and poor areas????  The parents have long been a business write 
off for society.  Are the kids far behind?

  Any thoughts about the article?

  Glenn







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