Personal insults add so much to a discussion, dontcha think?

Aside from that, I honestly don't know why people hang on to the ridiculous canard that people with no children should have no input or interest in school district business. It's preposterous.

Frank

On May 27, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Anthony West wrote:

Two useful facts:

1) The boundaries of the Penn Alexander School were drawn by the School District of Philadelphia. They are deeply integrated into a longstanding bureaucratic structure that no childless dogwalker can comprehend. Glenn's competence to comment on Philadelphia public education is roughly that of his dog. I love dogs myself, but for Pete's sake: woof! Pay off your trash tickets first, Glenn, and pick up your dogs' poop; only thereafter should you advise the rest of us how to educate our children.

2) Ray's interesting map overlays something that does not exist and probably never will -- the putative Spruce Hill Historic District -- with something that has long existed -- the catchment area of the Penn Alexander neighborhood school.

Ray's map demonstrates that any one neighborhood map tends to overlap any other map of the same neighborhood. Paranoids love this sort of geometrical toy, because they can use it to prove the conspiracy theories that get their blood pumping.

However, there is NO EVIDENCE that housing values have run up inside the PAS catchment area 1% more than they have in Cedar Park, Powelton Village, Fairmount, Francisville, Ludlow, South Kensington, Fishtown, Port Richmond, Queen Village, Bella Vista, Grays Ferry and West Shore. I'm open to reading any such evidence. But one thing is sure: a commentator who will not stray from his Locust Walk cubicle will never learn the facts of Philadelphia real estate.

Until we read cross-neighborhood comparisons between University City and comparable neighborhoods, UC-list seems doomed to be smothered in the polemical ruminations of obsolete New-Left jackasses who apparently can't locate the rest of the city even with the aid of MapQuest. Personally, I'd rather read about the real neighborhood we all live in today. Let's move past this bogus "gentrification" hooey, and talk about a city that is suffering because too many of its residents are poor people while too few are middle-class or prosperous people. How can we Philadelphians make Philadelphia's class demographics look more like those of America as a whole? Obviously, all Philadelphians need this to happen.

But poor Philadelphians need it most. Middle-class and wealthy folks don't "need" the inner city; they've shown they can live outside it and without it. It is chiefly the poor who need to live within a taxing body that includes the non-poor.

-- Tony West


UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
Glenn wrote:
Philadelphia Weekly has a short interesting article (a
snapshot) about the confluence of education, real estate and
gentrification issues here in our upscale village.

http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/articles/17058/news
In this short piece, it corroborates a point that was
widely discussed here. The description captures how the Penn
catchment area was drawn around the potential real estate
value of housing stock. The lines aren't drawn logically
around neighborhoods or existing residents, but instead are
obviously based on real estate value projections.




haha here's another 'snapshot':

 http://tinyurl.com/3bgtk



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