>Aside from that, I honestly don't know why people hang >on to the ridiculous
>canard that people with no children >should have no input or interest in
>school district >business. It's preposterous.> > Frank
I agree, Frank. If only people with children have a say in how the schools are
run, then only people with children should pay for them. Since I don't have any
children of my own, I don't think that I, or retirees, or any other childless
people should be taxed to educate other people's children.
Please don't write to me telling me I'm an asshole or whatever. I don't really
mean that. Obviously, that is a short-sighted, ignorant position.
Public schools are for the benefit of the public, and all members of the public
should pay for them. But apparantly the only role childless people are supposed
to have in the school system is that of footing the bill. Everyone has the
legal responsibility of paying the freight for the educational system, and by
virtue of that fact, everyone has the right to have input as to how that system
is administered. If anyone can be excluded from that because s)he doesn't
have children, then s)he should be exempted from having to pay for it.
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [UC] PW
> article, catchment and real estate> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 01:35:07 -0400> >
> Personal insults add so much to a discussion, dontcha think?> > Aside from
> that, I honestly don't know why people hang on to the > ridiculous canard
> that people with no children should have no input or > interest in school
> district business. It's preposterous.> > Frank
> > On May 27, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Anthony West wrote:> > > Two useful facts:>
> > >> > 1) The boundaries of the Penn Alexander School were drawn by the > >
> > School District of Philadelphia. They are deeply integrated into a > >
> > longstanding bureaucratic structure that no childless dogwalker can > >
> > comprehend. Glenn's competence to comment on Philadelphia public > >
> > education is roughly that of his dog. I love dogs myself, but for > >
> > Pete's sake: woof! Pay off your trash tickets first, Glenn, and pick > > up
> > your dogs' poop; only thereafter should you advise the rest of us > > how
> > to educate our children.> >> > 2) Ray's interesting map overlays something
> > that does not exist and > > probably never will -- the putative Spruce Hill
> > Historic District -- > > with something that has long existed -- the
> > catchment area of the > > Penn Alexander neighborhood school.> >> > Ray's
> > map demonstrates that any one neighborhood map tends to > > overlap any
> > other map of the same neighborhood. Paranoids love this > > sort of
> > geometrical toy, because they can use it to prove the > > conspiracy
> > theories that get their blood pumping.> >> > However, there is NO EVIDENCE
> > that housing values have run up inside > > the PAS catchment area 1% more
> > than they have in Cedar Park, > > Powelton Village, Fairmount,
> > Francisville, Ludlow, South Kensington, > > Fishtown, Port Richmond, Queen
> > Village, Bella Vista, Grays Ferry and > > West Shore. I'm open to reading
> > any such evidence. But one thing is > > sure: a commentator who will not
> > stray from his Locust Walk cubicle > > will never learn the facts of
> > Philadelphia real estate.> >> > Until we read cross-neighborhood
> > comparisons between University City > > and comparable neighborhoods,
> > UC-list seems doomed to be smothered > > in the polemical ruminations of
> > obsolete New-Left jackasses who > > apparently can't locate the rest of the
> > city even with the aid of > > MapQuest. Personally, I'd rather read about
> > the real neighborhood we > > all live in today. Let's move past this bogus
> > "gentrification" > > hooey, and talk about a city that is suffering because
> > too many of > > its residents are poor people while too few are
> > middle-class or > > prosperous people. How can we Philadelphians make
> > Philadelphia's > > class demographics look more like those of America as a
> > whole? > > Obviously, all Philadelphians need this to happen.> >> > But
> > poor Philadelphians need it most. Middle-class and wealthy folks > > don't
> > "need" the inner city; they've shown they can live outside it > > and
> > without it. It is chiefly the poor who need to live within a > > taxing
> > body that includes the non-poor.> >> > -- Tony West> >> >> >
> > UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:> >> Glenn wrote:> >>> Philadelphia Weekly has a
> > short interesting article (a> >>> snapshot) about the confluence of
> > education, real estate and> >>> gentrification issues here in our upscale
> > village.> >>>> >>> http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/articles/17058/news>
> > >>> In this short piece, it corroborates a point that was> >>> widely
> > discussed here. The description captures how the Penn> >>> catchment area
> > was drawn around the potential real estate> >>> value of housing stock. The
> > lines aren't drawn logically> >>> around neighborhoods or existing
> > residents, but instead are> >>> obviously based on real estate value
> > projections.> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> haha here's another 'snapshot':> >>> >>
> > http://tinyurl.com/3bgtk> >>> >>> >>> >> ..................> >>
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