I disagree with that.

Their is a slave mentality but it manifests itself differently.

My parents went through ³Jim Crow² and all its horrors.  I was in the fourth
grade when the Civil Rights Act was signed into law.  Neither they nor I
ever felt we were owed anything for having endured that.

We valued education.  People today do not.  Now because of that this might
make them as slaves since they have no way to advance themselves.


On 6/29/08 6:27 PM, "SKnight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That sense of entitlement to which you refer is a form of slave mentality...in
> the sense that the underlying narrative reads:  "after what you put me and my
> people through, you owe me...whatever I can get."  Unfortunately it is a major
> problem and one to which Cosby refers in his well-meaning rants.
> sk
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>  
>> From: Wilma de  Soto <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>  
>> To: Elizabeth F Campion <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  ; UnivCity listserv
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  
>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:48  PM
>>  
>> Subject: [UC] Re: How are we contributing  ,, was [UC] markets in schools ...
>> (Was: Re: [ UC] Publicizing Philly  Schools)
>>  
>> 
>> Thank you for your insightful comments, Liz.
>> 
>> I  wasn't speaking of 'welfare queens' which I consider to be a pejorative
>> term,  rather parents who have come to expect and demand that schools do
>> their job  for them.
>> 
>> What I see on the front lines are kids who are kept home two  or three days a
>> week to babysit for younger children.  One really nice  student comes to
>> mind.  His parents go off to the casino and leave him to  watch his 11 month
>> old sister.
>> 
>> Many of the parents we have are  receiving assistance which is why their
>> children are eligible for the  breakfast and lunch programs.
>> 
>> The most supportive parents are those  who come to "Back-to-School Night".
>> Those we really need to see do not.   Turnout for these 12+ hour days is
>> usually very poor even though they  are held right across the street or
>> around the corner from where they  live.
>> 
>> Isolating children with head lice is not as easy now.  One  can send them
>> home with a note from the nurse, but if they SAY they have  treated them we
>> have to admit them.  That also goes with ringworm,  amongst other
>> communicable maladies such as the recent highly contagious  Hand-and-Mouth
>> disease.
>> 
>> Most schools do have Nurse Practitioners, just  not everyday and trust me
>> those NP's are really stretched thinly.  The  other two days a week the
>> School Community Coordinator handles  it.
>> 
>> Vaccines are free to poor families at Health Centers.  We  direct them to the
>> closest ones, or ones that have personnel that speak the  home language of
>> the parents.  We have the Eagle's Vision Van come and  kids get free
>> eyeglasses.  We had Charming Shoppes come in and give every  single, solitary
>> kid a winter coat, scarf hat, gloves a school bag and school  supplies;
>> really nice stuff!  Some of the kids lost those coats, some  lose their
>> glasses, maltreat them, break them or refuse to wear  them.
>> 
>> We do so much and it seems as if it's never enough and quite  often not
>> appreciated.  Neither parents or children say "Thank You".   Some do of
>> course, but the sense of entitlement boggles the mind.   Not to mention all
>> the extra work needed to organize these  events.
>> 
>> I daresay most people on this listserv have not been inside of  a public
>> school building lately.  If my vote could do something to change  the way
>> these children are being brought up, so be it.  However, the  public cannot
>> do everything and there has to be a limit at how far people can  push the
>> envelope for services and not do anything for  themselves.
>> 
>> Before I am accused of painting all parents with a broad  brush, I am not.
>> However, people need to know what schools are really  like now.
>> 
>> Try to catch "Hard Times at Douglas High playing on HBO now.   It's a good
>> documentary.
>> 
>> Wilma
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/28/08 7:56  PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The myth of the Welfare Queen is often just  a myth.   For every mother who
>>> chooses "hair extensions" over  feeding her children there are many more who
>>> are cutting their own portions  to make sure their children get 'enough'.
>>> 
>>> I see enormous  sacrifices by some of the parents delivering children to the
>>> school next to  my home.  Some walk their kids, rain or shine.  Others
>>> accompany  them, to and fro, on SEPTA, than complete their own rides to
>>> work.   
>>> 
>>> As a society we are still voting bombs as a higher priority  than child
>>> welfare.  Maybe basic "Food, Clothing and Shelter" should be
>>> 'entitlements'.  Schools make a good delivery system for food, and  could
>>> also be used to deliver the mandatory vaccines and other health  check-ups
>>> that confound so many parents living on the edge.  It would  be sooooo much
>>> easier to bring a Doctor or Nurse Practitioner to a school,  than to direct
>>> 600 families to a health center.  Maybe Schools could  run year round or
>>> maybe some practical and socially beneficial use for the  buildings could be
>>> found for the summer months.
>>> 
>>> Healthy working  parents are often overwhelmed by the demands of scheduling
>>> family   requirements.  If we acknowledge that a huge number of humans are
>>> not healthy, and that many suffer from debilitating mental illnesses and
>>> that many of the ill are parents, than stresses within the current system
>>> become more evident.
>>> 
>>> As adults I believe our obligation is to  comfort, feed and educate the
>>> hungry children before we challenge the  failing parents to do better.
>>> 
>>> Teachers are the salaried front  line of defense for our kids.  There are
>>> good teachers, and there are  some that are worse than the stereotype of the
>>> 'welfare queen'.  Often  teachers deliver tissues, require hands to be
>>> washed, isolate the kids with  head lice, report those who appear to have
>>> been abused and quiet a riot  before chalk touches black board.  Like
>>> parents, teachers need support  systems.
>>> 
>>> Society is complicated.  Most of us contribute.   DINKS might pay more in
>>> taxes, for services being directed outside  their own needs.  Parents might
>>> invest a greater portion of their time  and money to their own kids.  Those
>>> kids might be our future tax base.   Stay home parents might be eyes on the
>>> street, a quiet deterrent to  afternoon crime and possibly a group that
>>> gardens or makes our parks look  more people friendly.
>>> 
>>> It would be nice if "them" were not just  'problems' but also
>>> 'opportunities'.  It would be nice if "we" paused,  often, to contemplate
>>> all the good we receive, and to say thank you.  I  am grateful that Wilma,
>>> provokes thought.  I usually, but do not always  agree with her.  I do
>>> admire her clear, frank, brave writing.   More than most, she enables me to
>>> better understand something that is  rolling around in my brain, collecting
>>> the lint of foundered ideas and  stuttered words.
>>> 
>>> This is an election year.  We have less than 5  months to declare our
>>> choices.  I hope all eligible Adults: register;  make time to think about
>>> their visions of a better society; examine  candidate skills and plans;
>>> VOTE, for the people that will bring us closer  to the society we want.
>>> 
>>> All the best!
>>> 
>>> Liz  Campion
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>>> ... When you have  parents lamenting the end of a school year because they
>>> expect
>>> schools to  give their children free breakfast ad lunch, well...
>>> 
>>> Why buy food and  cook when <a parent> could use that money for hair
>>> extensions  that
>>> take eight hours or more to put in.
>>> 
>>> That is what <teachers  are> up  against.
>>> 
>>> 
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