'I totally agree that there are risks and unknowns when a contractor is given a scope of work and a limited budget. Of course! But that's not what I was asking. I was trying to respond to your statement that we should look at the website if we want to know a) the specifics of what is being done, and b) what the process was that led to that scope of work.

I tried to repeat my specific questions a number of times to emphasize that I think that it's fair to ask for specific answers to these questions. But instead of responding, it seems like you changed your stance from "you're not paying attention" to "it's impossible to know what is actually going to be done". '

Josh,

It's important that you know some history of this Penn takeover to understand the obfuscation and outright lies you are getting now.

This plan to redesign Clark Park surfaced about 8 years ago. Hundreds of people from the community showed up at public meetings and rejected every bit of the redesign. The community loudly rejected the secret closed process called the master plan steering committee. (For this secret committee, Penn hand picked its corporate buddies and the leaders of the FOCP club. They refused transparency, inclusion of park users, and inclusion of respected members of the community).

Penn delayed the redesign all these years in order to circumvent the will of the community. FOCP and UCD do not have broad public support for wiping out the trees or any other part of this project. In fact, the vast majority of the community is against its elements, such as replacing the trees and the high maintenance fountain.

There has been no public process over these years and no way for people to ask questions or voice concerns among their neighbors. We have been consistently told that if any citizen wants to participate, they must give Tony West and Brian Siano 20 dollars (membership dues) and then you can give your suggestions to them privately. We are to then shut up and believe that Siano, Chance and West will express your views to the Penn power brokers

The Clark Park Partnership has refused to give the time, date and location of their secret meetings just as the FOCP "planning committee" did since the plan was rejected 7 years ago. The few presentations which FOCP calls public meetings do not allow time for public input. (I tried to make a 1 minute statement at these dog and pony shows, three years in a row, to object to the closed exclusive process. Each time I was silenced.)

It's a tight little catch-22. They tell everybody that they were too lazy and disinterested to give their hard working volunteers $20, and consequently don't know what they are talking about. But they refuse to allow anyone to look at the secret plans or attend their secret meetings.

I saved the e-mail evidence showing that the Clark Park Partnership meetings are completely closed to the public.

Penn Real Estate wants a complete redesign of the park to support its real estate goals and to support its false history of this neighborhood. They see dollar signs on a map and don't care one bit about the community which existed here. The Department of Recreation has betrayed the people of this neighborhood and Philadelphia taxpayers due to a process called an iron triangle.

Briefly, its initially easier for the Recreation staff to turn over the park to UCD and betray the people of Philadelphia. They get to show up for photo ops and don't have to serve the interests of the public. Certainly, the individual Rec. employees don't realize that eventually the department of recreation will be abolished, as facilities are privatized in gentrified neighborhoods, and abandoned in poor neighborhoods.

Josh, as people on this list serv understand, it is futile to communicate with West and Siano like mature adults communicate. If you point out fallacious arguments and lies, they will get nasty and spread lies about you.

As I wrote to Aaron, only a lawsuit against the Department of Recreation for privatizing the park can stop Penn now.

Sincerely,
Glenn



On 9/8/2010 2:10 AM, Brian Siano wrote:
Josh, I've sent email to the person handling our website, asking if we can set up a better-organized page about the Park A project. I'll bring it up at our next board meeting later this month.

The fact is that the FOCP's a volunteer organization, and we're only as good as our free time and energies permit. We've done a lot to publicize the project. We've had public meetings, made videos of those meetings available on the site, run articles in our newsletter, had articles in the UC Review, and we've tried to be out in the park every Summer Saturday with a map of the park plan. We've even made the full Revitalization Plan available as a PDF on our website.

As for the plans and your questions, I'll try to answer as best I can. About two years ago, I took a break from the FOCP, so my info may be a little outdated. We did a _lot_ of groundwork on this. We consulted with the major stakeholder groups (the chess players, the Farmer's Market, the Uhuru flea markets) about park use. We conducted surveys of what people wanted in the park-- people wanted more green space, for example. We ran designs past the community in those public meetings. There was a _major_ revision requested by the city's Arts Council-- and it was a revision that really improved the plan, IMO. But working with Bryan Haines, we developed a plan that reflected the use of the park, made some changes that were needed, and seemed to satisfy the neighbors who attended the public meetings about this plan.

Now, I know that this may not be as much information as you desire. But you're asking for about four years' worth of work that's pretty much _done_.

At this point, the plan was out of _our_ hands, and became a project between Bryan Haines and the Department of Recreation, who are the real owners of the park. Now, the city has its own concerns-- they wanted changes in the electrical system, for example, and they have certain requirements about things like handicapped accessibility and the distances between trees and paths, and the project had to be within a certain budget, and...

I have not seen the "final plans." I have seen an overall map that the city provided to prospective contractors when the job went out to bid. I can say that the plans that the city developed were not appreciably different from what we developed with Bryan Haines-- the very map we've had on display at the Farmer's Market and on our website. The paths were the same, the trees chosen for removal were the same (maybe some changes there). Bryan's going to be involved with the contractors as they work as well.

In summary: The plans were developed by the community through the FOCP; the architect is a member of the community, and will continue to supervise the project; and even though the city could override _all_ of our work, because it's their park, they didn't change the plans that much.


I may have to apologize for Tony's intemperate comment about "Johnny come latelies." He really shouldn't have said that. But I can understand his frustration on this point. As I've described above, we've spent years working on this and engaging the community as best we can. As any activist knows, peoples' interest in an issue comes and goes. (For example, people wanted more membership meetings. So we held them... until attendance dwindled. So we have fewer membership meetings.) But when a major event happens, suddenly people need to know _everything_, right _now_. If we can't satisfy this need, we're accused of bad faith or unprofessionalism. Obviously, we can't simply decide to _not_ make up for lost opportunities... but it's hard to avoid thinking, "If these people care so much, and are telling us how to do things, then why haven't they gotten involved _before_?"

On 9/8/2010 12:48 AM, Josh Marcus wrote:
Tony,

I totally agree that there are risks and unknowns when a contractor is given a scope of work and a limited budget. Of course! But that's not what I was asking. I was trying to respond to your statement that we should look at the website if we want to know a) the specifics of what is being done, and b) what the process was that led to that scope of work.

I tried to repeat my specific questions a number of times to emphasize that I think that it's fair to ask for specific answers to these questions. But instead of responding, it seems like you changed your stance from "you're not paying attention" to "it's impossible to know what is actually going to be done". I've never seen any public statement from you or FoCP that would lead me to believe that there isn't a public plan or that it is unreasonable to expect that there would be a public plan -- I only brought up the website as a source of information because you directed the author of a previous message to the website, and criticized him for not "paying attention" to the details that had been posted.

I repeated my questions a number of times to try and emphasize them, and to emphasize that these specific questions deserve answers. You didn't answer them. I am disappointed -- do you recognize that you didn't answer my questions, and instead just asserted that it is an "inherently fluid" process? I am honestly not trying to argue here, just trying to clarify what are the pieces of information that neighbors are missing and try and clarify why that missing information might lead people to concern. I'm not looking for a rhetorical argument, but was instead looking for the basic facts of the situation. I'm glad to hear that you trust the contractor.

Here are my questions, repeated:
1) If FoCP has not reviewed or commented on the plans being implemented, please let us know. If it is a mistake to think that the FoCP is not very involved in the process, or if you're not free to speak freely about what's going on, that would be a good thing to make clear. 2) Have you have seen the plans being implemented? Specifically, are the specific plans being implemented by the contractor public or have they been reviewed by anyone outside of the city? If the contractor has broad free-reign over the implementation and priority (as you seem to suggest), does the community or FoCP have any input into the process? If not, are you concerned? 3) Are those plans public? If not, why not? If so, where can we see them? 4) How do the plans being implemented differ from the plans that have been discussed in public in the past? 5) What is the process that led to the current plan? What role did the public process play?

--j




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