Well, I guess then I have no more responses for you, because no matter how much you scream and yell, cry wolf, are right or wrong in accusing FOCP, UCD, or any other entity of misbehaving, your audience on this list serve is probably the most conducive you will find. And while on rare occasions you actually come up with something useful or interesting, for the most part it gets lost in your diatribes against "the powers that be" in our neighborhood.
I too feel sad for the coming generations (especially with a 16yo son), but having experienced Asia and Europe and studied political systems throughout the world, I wouldn't place my faith in those people either. As for things said about you, they were personal thoughts/feelings, and probably are reciprocated by you. I feel that you have been portrayed in no less a fashion as you have portrayed others. I will continue to read your emails with amusement, bewilderment, and occasionally actual interest! Darco From: Glenn [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:31 PM To: Lalevic, Darco Cc: UnivCity listserv Subject: Re: [UC] Co-opting Darco was question for former FOCP was RoundUp burning is visible Much better. Apology accepted. "And you think Americans will do this?" No, I do not. If they won't stand up for public schools, peace, and parks, they are far too ignorant and craven to regain their republic or Constitutional rights. I feel extremely sad for coming generations of Americans and put my hope for the future in the citizen's of Africa, South America, and Europe. All the best, Glenn PS: Could you post some of the "extreme things" said about me, so that list readers can see the ubiquitous mean-spirited tactics used against dissenters. It will help readers understand some of their own fears and help them understand why I long for the day I can say good riddance to this upscale shopping district. On 6/21/2011 1:27 PM, Lalevic, Darco wrote: "The political elite from the international corporate party, whether or not they are incumbents; must be removed from power by mass protest. Voting for any of them has become completely irrelevant because we are long past the point of no return! There will be no "no trespassing signs" as Clark Park becomes inhospitable to the former community portrayed as "prostitutes, gang, members, and drug dealers." Permit rules and various police forces will erect invisible but extreme barriers for the former community! This barrier will be disproportionately directed at the poor, ethnic minorities, immigrants and pro-democracy activists. Ready for a serious discussion with mature adults, Glenn" Um, the straw man requires a misrepresentation of an opponents position - so maybe you are right, I am misrepresenting your position, and if so, I apologize as maybe I just don't understand it. So, to be clear - You're position is that the political elite must be removed by mass protest? And you think Americans will do this? And that if they do not, Clark Park will be the first step towards shutting out the poor, minorities, and pro-democracy activists? On 6/21/2011 10:25 AM, Lalevic, Darco wrote: "Darco, I was extremely disappointed that you'd chosen the FOCP tactics." Glenn- It's funny (or sad) that the more I hear from you, the more convinced I become of the most extreme things said of you. I have absolutely no motivation to lie or distort the truth or defend FOCP or UCD. I have no history of interaction with most of the people involved. In fact, while I recognize the benefits of the UCD, FOCP, and the general gentrification of my neighborhood (yes, I'm very proud to have lived here my entire life), it's my criticisms and disagreements of some of trends in the neighborhood that have pushed me to become more involved. On many things, we clearly agree (the dangers of rising corporatism, the use of chemicals on public park land), but your intentional warping and muddying of facts so closely resembles exactly what you accuse the FOCP (and others of), that it becomes preposterous. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3717 - Release Date: 06/21/11 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.901 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3717 - Release Date: 06/21/11 02:34:00
