*Hey Alvaro, let me just copy and paste you from my reply to another developer that asked the same thing.*
The overall goal is for developers from each language and NEW developers (like college kids that are trying to decide what to pick up) to be able to quickly, visually get a taste of each product in a way that's not very time consuming like reading over documentation or potentially-biased or near-sighted forums and that's more entertaining and engaging. To dispel some myths, to hopefully expose some comparative strengths and weaknesses for simple application development of each language when compared to its competitors, and to just be a fun experiment. The videos will be put up on some site that I make and will be freely available to the world. I'm guessing that ColdFusion will come across as faster / bettter / easier to develop with just because that's what I use on a daily basis and it's impossible for me to even imagine that anything could be more efficient or powerful than what I use, I'm sure you know the feeling. Thanks for your reply. In the next few weeks I'll be drafting up some ideas on exactly what we should demo and sending them around to the other interestetd developers to make sure that they're mutually acceptable tasks that don't lend an advantage or disadvantage to any one product. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Alvaro Carrasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi David, > See below. > > David McGuigan wrote: > > Hey guys, > > Last night was my first UPHPU meeting. Great presentations, thanks for > > having me. > > > > My name's David McGuigan, and I'm a full time Web developer about a year > and > > change out of school and have been toying around with a pretty > interesting > > idea. > > > > I've got kind of a random, fun request for the group. It's a chance to > > really show off PHP and possibly recruit some new developers to it. If > > anyone would be interested, I'm in need of an intermediate or expert, > > recognizably-efficient PHP developer with a little bit of charisma able > to > > get to Salt Lake once or twice (I'll gladly pay for gas and lunch) to sit > in > > with me (I'll be doing this with a few other developers from other > languages > > too) and record some really short, light, PHP tutorials with screen and > > audio capturing software that I'll be purchasing specifically for this > > purpose (just screen, no web cam). Well, more like PHP demonstrations > than > > tutorials really. > > > > Here are some examples of videos we might record: > > 1. Installing PHP > > 2. Connecting to a MySQL database and making some simple queries > > 3. Displaying the results with an HTML/CSS front end > > 4. Creating a simple listing, editing and updating form page to manage a > > table's data > > 5. Some simple AJAX techniques with PHP backends > > 6. Sending an email with PHP > > > > Nothing too major, and the demos are totally flexible. This won't take > more > > than a few hours (depending on how long it takes to do any of the stuff > in > > PHP ) > > > > Long story short, I'm looking to get a single developer from each of the > > main server side products (PHP, Ruby, "Microsoft", Java, and ColdFusion, > > etc.) to record these demos to show how to do the exact same Web app type > > things in each language. > > > > The reason I'm looking for a more-experienced/efficient developer is so > when > > we're putting these videos together people from the represented > discipline > > won't feel like the language itself was misrepresented by a particularly > > slow or inexperienced programmer. > > > > For example I've got 4 years ColdFusion experience, so I write ColdFusion > > about 15x faster than maybe someone who's been at it for 6 months. I'm > not > > really concerned with how much time you've been writing PHP so much as > just > > getting someone visibly good. Someone that other PHP developers would see > in > > these videos and go, "Yeah, that's about right" or "Nice! That guy's > fast!" > > > > If anyone can help out on this or knows a PHP-er that'd be into it let me > > know. If you have particular frameworks ( MVC, ORM, what have you ) that > you > > use in your development we can definitely explore including them in the > > demos if it'll speed up your coding and make the PHP demos faster and > more > > impressive. I really want PHP to look good here, no ulterior motives. > > > > What I'm really worried about is recording these videos and having > > ColdFusion look so much better than the other languages that it seems > staged > > or exaggerated, so it's probably be a good idea for the person to use > what's > > generally accepted as the best PHP IDE available (we'll have a computer > set > > up ready for all of this stuff that you can install anything to, even a > > trial) and any PHP-specific best practices in the code they write. > > > > Anyone who's interested please write back. Thanks! > > > > Who will be the audience for these videos? Will they be freely available > to the general public? > > Alvaro > _______________________________________________ UPHPU mailing list [email protected] http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
