First of all, I probably should have clarified that I'm only looking at the
AJAX UI, UI links, etc. at the moment, so terms like "managed fragment"
shouldn't be of concern.  I also object to the use of "portlet" as a generic
term.  It's driven me partially insane since the day we started using it.

I'm completely OK with sticking with channel and tab, although since some
other terminology has crept into the UI, so it seems worthwhile to solicit
some opinions about which direction we should fix it in.  My preference
would be to someday replace the term "channel" with something that's neither
"channel" nor "portlet".  Ideally I'd really rather use a term that doesn't
indicate (or mis-indicate) a backing technology.  That doesn't necessarily
need to happen now though.

- Jen


On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Andrew Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jen,
>
> I favor sticking with the historical "tab" and "channel" terminology for
> this release.  It maximizes the re-usability of existing documentation.
>
> I object to "portlet" as the generic term for the dynamic boxes on the
> screen in the uPortal documentation and terminology because it is
> confusing in its relationship to JSR-168 Portlets.  Some of the channels
> are implemented as JSR-168 portlets.  Some are not.  Technically, all of
> them are "channels" and can benefit by channel things, like channel
> types, metadata about which channel controls to show, categorization,
> and selection of audiences permitted to subscribe to them.
>
> I see why implementing schools might adopt portlet, or widget, or
> channel, or thingamabob as their local terminology.  End users don't
> need to understand JSR-168 and the distinction of which channels are
> JSR-168 portlets and which are not.
>
> The target audience of the uPortal release, however, tends more towards
> the IT staff of higher education institutions who might adopt and
> implement uPortal locally.  Avoiding calling things "portlets" that are
> not "Portlets" has value for this audience.
>
>
> I like the term "tab".  Using the default theme and skin, they look like
> tabs.  I find it easier to explain this to people in terms of tabs, and
> then tell them that if they want they could look like something other
> than tabs.  Tabs are nicely concrete and palpable and easier to grok.  I
> like using "managed fragment" to differentiate between DLM managed tabs
> and end-user personal layout tabs.
>
> The term "page" has too much content management system expectations
> associated with it.  uPortal *isn't* a content management system and you
> *don't* interact with pages in the sense of Drupal or HyperContent.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> Timothy Carroll wrote:
> > we have implemented a bit more hierarchy than the out of box uportal.
> >
> > we use the terms tabs, pages, portlets
> >
> >
> >
> > Jen Bourey wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> In cleaning up the up3 UI, I've noticed that the terminology isn't
> >> always consistent.  What do we want to use?  I think historically
> >> we've used channel and tab as terms?  At Yale, we've switched to
> >> calling those items portlets and pages, not that that's necessarily
> >> better.
> >>
> >> I don't have strong feelings about what terminology we use, although
> >> I would like to fix it to all be the same.  What would everyone prefer?
> >>
> >> - Jen
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