Hi Susan,

Thanks for doing some testing!  I'll take a look at the portlet manager crash 
you reported - you're right that that's definitely not the intended behavior :)

Since we haven't introduced separate subscribe and render permissions, you're 
right that subscribing to "hidden" channels as a fragment owner is still a 
problem.  We ultimately decided that introducing separate render vs. subscribe 
permissions is probably too complex a change until we improve the permissions 
management UI.  I'm not sure how we want to handle this in the meantime.  One 
potential solution might be to introduce a new "can subscribe to no-category 
channels permission".  It's not a very elegant solution, but maybe it would 
help in the short-term?

- Jen


On Dec 3, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Susan Bramhall wrote:

> I've finally gotten around to testing some of the new admin functions in the 
> trunk.  One thing I wanted to verify was that we could still get the behavior 
> we want with channels belonging to no category.  In the discussion on this 
> list (about http://www.ja-sig.org/issues/browse/UP-2499) I think Jen 
> summarized the behavior perfectly.  However, when I go to portlet manager and 
> remove all categories from a portlet, the portlet manager crashes,  The 
> channel manager used to refuse but it shouldn't crash.  I can create JIRA but 
> wnated to check first that I am not missing something.
> 
> When I use the groups manager to remove the portlet from all containing 
> groups the task succeeds and, as expected, a user cannot add the portlet 
> anymore but they can still see it.  However, the fragment manager cannot add 
> it either.  This is consistent with current behavior in 3.1 but I had thought 
> new changes would allow the portlet to be accessed in fragment manager.  Now 
> that I say that I'm not sure how but want to verify -can the fragment manager 
> show channels in no category as well as those in non-punlished state?
> 
> Thanks,
> Susan
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