So you have to maintain a list of user-agent that is already done in
the WURFL library. I think it would be interesting to extend this
library on use a second list of user-agent to have dedicated JSP in
some specific cases.
How is generated the code for mobile? because there are so many
browser that is is hard to write XHTML/WML code in one JSP
compatible for all the handsets!. This is why we want to use WNG
taglib. This taglib generate the code depending on the mobile. It
takes into account a lot of parameters like the size of the screen,
the doctype... in order to generate a valid code for the browser of
the handset. It avoid to hard code the XHTML tags.
Regards,
Fred
Le 22/11/2010 18:28, Drew Wills a écrit :
The
current work for mobile in Jasig Portlets uses the same tools
& frameworks as the non-mobile interfaces: Spring Portlet
MVC, JSP/JSTL/EL, jQuery.
The best portlets (for mobile) have dedicated mobile screens --
separate JSPs designed to suit mobile devices. In our controlers,
we look at the user agent String and choose which JSPs to render
based on it.
drew wills
On 11/22/2010 9:55 AM, Cris J Holdorph wrote:
It is a question, because no other Jasig
project, currently in Jasig
subversion, uses JSF to my knowledge. So it's harder to share
code/techniques between any existing Jasig work and this
project.
There is a lot of work already done for Mobile in Jasig, but not
of it
uses or works with JSF. I'll let someone who is more familiar
with the
current Jasig mobile work comment on what was used.
---- Cris J H
On 11/22/2010 09:46 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
It is not really a choice, we have to
use it because most of the
existing portlets used by the ESUP community are based on JSF.
And
because we will have to enhance some of them to add the mobile
view we
have to do with it. In this way the people working on this
community
will be able to follow our guideline to enhance them portlets.
Obviously
if it is a big problem to add mobile view we will have to
suggest them
something else.
Otherwise we would have choice something else because it is
not our
favorite Framework.
Why this question?
Regards,
Fred
Le 22/11/2010 17:05, Cris J Holdorph a écrit :
Can you describe why you want to use
JSF?
---- Cris J H
On 11/22/2010 08:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
Hello,
I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project",
working at
Anyware-Services.
We started the development last week. Our first portlet is
a portlet to
display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under
CAS).
Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is
a real
difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF).
Also the goal is
to have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data
on mobile
and
desktop).
Our strategy is:
1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin
(based on
JSF)
2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect
if the user
is using a mobile or a desktop browser
3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the
detection
(mobile
to use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic
JSF taglib)
4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.
The last step may failed or may be too hard or too
complicate to
maintain. In this case we will reduce our constraints and
we will use
another taglib to render data to mobile. We already think
about
Trinidad. If you have suggestion I am open to them. We'd
like to avoid
framework or library that are only webkit compatible,
because we'd like
to support many mobile browsers and not only iphone and
smartphone. It
is a wish that can be reduce depending on the complexity
and the
maintainability.
Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the
mobile
developers that want a real compatibility with most of the
mobiles.
We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some
small doubt on
step 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an
IMAP that
support CAS here.
Do you have suggestions?
Do you have others informations?
Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more
information or to
share some knowledge.
Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to
develop
(Calendar, Directory based on LDAP, news, ...)
Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than
this one.
Sincerely,
Frédéric Ravetier
Project Manager
Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com)
[email protected]
Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03
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Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit :
I recently had a conversation with
Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP
Portail, the nation-wide consortium of French
universities that have
developed a "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS,
and a host of
other open source applications that they have developed
or integrated.
Alain told me about two projects currently underway that
are of
interest to Jasig.
The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project. With several
participating
universities, this project is working to coordinate the
development of
mobile services supported by the mobile framework in
uPortal 3.2. The
wiki page for the project (in French) is located at
http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.
A second project, also the result of a collaboration
among several
organizations, is designed to enhance the content
management
capabilities of uPortal.
Alain will ask the project leads to send us more
information about
these initiatives. I am hoping there might be some areas
in which
Jasig developers would be able to contribute.
-Jonathan
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