Hello, Xavier-

Please excuse my late reply.  I just wanted to welcome you to the Jasig
uPortal lists.  We are looking forward to collaborating with the ESUP Mobile
team and with the Anywhere-Services efforts.  So I hope we can continue this
dialog as the work progresses.

Best,
Jonathan


On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Xavier Pétard <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
> our wiki pages about ESUP Mobile are in French, and before I have enough
> time to explain precisely what we have done or want to do, let me sketch it.
> We want to :
>
>    - provide help for our community on mobile-ready uportal packages
>    (hence our emails about lost sessions in 3.2.4) ;
>    - provide a list of tested mobile portlets, whether coming from jasig
>    or done locally ;
>    - provide a framework to ease portlets development. We are currently
>    rewriting our esup-commons framework, to be less tied to specific rendering
>    methods : some developers here use JSF (Trinidad for mobile compliance,
>    http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJCOMMONS/Esup-commons-jsf-trinidad),
>    some others SpringMVC (
>    http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJCANSTOCK/Esup+Portlet+Stockage).
>    The last version is not anymore, like Frederic Ravetier mentioned, tied to
>    JSF. Anyway, all the improvements made on the JSF part will certainly be
>    included ;-)
>
> We know for sure we will have to write different views between desktop and
> mobile, but one of the main questions now is device detection, which has to
> be consistent between portal and portlets, user being able to switch between
> views.
>
> Thanks to Frederic Ravetier, he was quicker than me talking about ESUP
> Mobile. Anyware-Services is working with us on the project, with the Paris
> Universities (UNR Paris Ile de France).
>
> Xavier Pétard
> ESUP Portail
>
>
>
> Le 22/11/10 19:12, Jen Bourey a écrit :
>
> Hi Frederic,
>
>  It's great to hear from you, and I'm looking forward to Jasig and Esup
> Portail collaborating on mobile development.  I've been involved in both the
> mobile theme development for uPortal, as well as some of the mobile portlet
> development.  I'm traveling for the holidays today, but I'll try to compose
> a summary of what I know of the current state of mobile support in uPortal
> trunk, as well as some of the changes we've talked about making.
>
>  - Jen
>
>
>  On Nov 22, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>
>  Hello,
>
> I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project", working at
> Anyware-Services.
> We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a portlet to
> display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under CAS).
> Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a real
> difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also the goal is to
> have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data on mobile and
> desktop).
>
> Our strategy is:
> 1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin (based on JSF)
> 2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect if the user is
> using a mobile or a desktop browser
> 3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the detection (mobile to
> use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic JSF taglib)
> 4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment.
>
> The last step may failed or may be too hard or too complicate to maintain.
> In this case we will reduce our constraints and we will use another taglib
> to render data to mobile. We already think about Trinidad. If you have
> suggestion I am open to them. We'd like to avoid framework or library that
> are only webkit compatible, because we'd like to support many mobile
> browsers and not only iphone and smartphone. It is a wish that can be reduce
> depending on the complexity and the maintainability.
>
> Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the mobile developers
> that want a real compatibility with most of the mobiles.
>
> We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some small doubt on
> step 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an IMAP that support
> CAS here.
>
> Do you have suggestions?
> Do you have others informations?
> Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more information or to share
> some knowledge.
>
> Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to develop (Calendar,
> Directory based on LDAP, news, ...)
>
> Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than this one.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Frédéric Ravetier
> Project Manager
> Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com)
> [email protected]
> Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03
> Ametys: The CMS Java Open Source www.ametys.org
>
>
> Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit :
>
> I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP Portail,
> the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have developed a
> "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of other open source
> applications that they have developed or integrated.  Alain told me about
> two projects currently underway that are of interest to Jasig.
>
> The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project.  With several participating
> universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of
> mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2.  The wiki
> page for the project (in French) is located at
> http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile.
>
> A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several
> organizations, is designed to enhance the content management capabilities of
> uPortal.
>
> Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about these
> initiatives.  I am hoping there might be some areas in which Jasig
> developers would be able to contribute.
>
> -Jonathan
>
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