Drew,

I agree that I **feel** Universality and mUniversality should be deprecated
and then removed.

I’d feel more confident in that with more discussion in this thread:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.jasig.uportal/17788

that is, I’d love to know adopters had successfully migrated forward to
achieve their theme desires via Bucky and that therefore the product was
dropping Universality and mUniversality because in practice adopters were
no longer using those.  As opposed to the product dropping them without
having demonstrated that adopters successfully migrate forward to Bucky.
Less about developer feelings and more about the product responding to
adopter adoption.

So.  I think we need a few more rounds of making noise about, hey, what
needs to be better about Bucky and what needs to be better about this
upgrade path, o Universality and mUniversality adopters, such that your
migration forward to Bucky is obvious, before removing these.  Visibly
deprecating them might be a great step in that making-noise process.

Bear in mind that while I'm looking forward to an exciting responsive MyUW
feature, the current production default is Universality / mUniversality,
and will remain so for the near future.  That while James and others have
shared promising ideas about how to make Bucky a more suitable upgrade path
from mUniversality (render less on landing on mobile), those ideas are not
yet implemented.  Such that an adopter today could reasonably say that
mUniversality is still their best foot forward for some mobile use cases.
Once that sounds less reasonable, it's going to be more clearly sound to
drop mUniversality.


Kind regards,

Andrew

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Drew Wills <[email protected]> wrote:

> Should these themes be removed in 4.2 (or 4.3, 5.0, etc.), or should we
> retain support for them indefinitely?
>
> I’m inclined to believe we should remove them at some point, I’m just not
> sure of the right moment.  It’s a bandwidth drag to maintain them, and
> they’re enough long-in-the-tooth that I don’t see anyone innovating on them.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> drew
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